Fargo!!!

EIUwrestler1 · July 18, 2015, 03:49:48 PM

Good Luck to all the Wisconsin wrestlers. Cadet Greco starts tomorrow, Jr freestyle starts Thursday morning. I cant wait to get there

bigdawg · July 19, 2015, 08:09:44 PM

Good to see a few guys in the semi's from Wisconsin! The boys wrestled really tough today.

EIUwrestler1 · July 20, 2015, 07:05:26 AM

It looks like Acosta, Nutter, Bergelin, Peak are all undefeated and guaranteed AA, several more still in the running

3wrestle · July 20, 2015, 11:57:11 AM

Good luck to all the WI wrestlers! Looks like a couple in the finals and placers! Awesome job!

EIUwrestler1 · July 20, 2015, 12:42:28 PM

after a quick glance
Peak and Nutter in the finals
Bergelin going for 3rd
Dow and Murtyand Acosta for 5th
Eric Barnett and Kleuver wrestling for 7th

8 All americans

sorry if I missed anyone

DocWrestling · July 20, 2015, 03:55:14 PM

I see they are using a new bracket format and seem to have seeded more wrestlers.

Curious how the seeding criteria went and How Breske got seeded so low? Am I missing something with what "level" each guy is ranked or seeded at?

Jimmy · July 20, 2015, 05:12:23 PM

Looks like Wisconsin men did real well. Didn't notice any 0-2,lots with four or five matches

boowrestle · July 20, 2015, 05:58:06 PM

Top 4 seed at Fargo,wouldn't really consider that low for somebody that didn't win state past yr,and yes I know about his past accomplishments,my guess is that they used last season results for seeding.My guess is that it will all play out.Go Bucky!!

hornbuckleb · July 20, 2015, 07:31:28 PM

They do not seed at Fargo but rather use a separation criteria. Doc and Boo sometimes you scare me

Junior Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Junior World placer in and out of style
2 Junior/FILA Jr National champion in style,FILA Cadet World placer in style
3 Cadet FILA World Placer out of style, Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion in style
5 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 in style, Junior/FILA JR National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 in style
7 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 5-8 in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion out of style
8 Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 out of style
9 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 out of style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 out of style
10 Junior Regional Champion in style

Cadet Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Cadet and above World placer in and out of style
2 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National champion in style
3 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 5-8 in style
5 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 2-4 out of style
7 Cadet Regional Champion in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 5-8 out of style
8 Schoolboy National Champion in style
9 Schoolboy National Placer 2-4 in style
10 Schoolboy National Champion out of style

mike · July 20, 2015, 08:21:09 PM

Quote from: hornbuckleb on July 20, 2015, 07:31:28 PM
They do not seed at Fargo but rather use a separation criteria. Doc and Boo sometimes you scare me

Junior Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Junior World placer in and out of style
2 Junior/FILA Jr National champion in style,FILA Cadet World placer in style
3 Cadet FILA World Placer out of style, Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion in style
5 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 in style, Junior/FILA JR National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 in style
7 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 5-8 in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion out of style
8 Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 out of style
9 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 out of style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 out of style
10 Junior Regional Champion in style

Cadet Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Cadet and above World placer in and out of style
2 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National champion in style
3 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 5-8 in style
5 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 2-4 out of style
7 Cadet Regional Champion in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 5-8 out of style
8 Schoolboy National Champion in style
9 Schoolboy National Placer 2-4 in style
10 Schoolboy National Champion out of style

So how does seperation point criteria work? How are they separated from others? Thanks

hornbuckleb · July 20, 2015, 09:44:09 PM

Quote from: mike on July 20, 2015, 08:21:09 PM
Quote from: hornbuckleb on July 20, 2015, 07:31:28 PM
They do not seed at Fargo but rather use a separation criteria. Doc and Boo sometimes you scare me

Junior Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Junior World placer in and out of style
2 Junior/FILA Jr National champion in style,FILA Cadet World placer in style
3 Cadet FILA World Placer out of style, Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion in style
5 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 in style, Junior/FILA JR National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 in style
7 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 5-8 in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion out of style
8 Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 out of style
9 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 out of style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 out of style
10 Junior Regional Champion in style

Cadet Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Cadet and above World placer in and out of style
2 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National champion in style
3 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 5-8 in style
5 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 2-4 out of style
7 Cadet Regional Champion in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 5-8 out of style
8 Schoolboy National Champion in style
9 Schoolboy National Placer 2-4 in style
10 Schoolboy National Champion out of style

So how does seperation point criteria work? How are they separated from others? Thanks

Wrestlers are separated by criteria above and state then randomly drawn by track. 1 opposite side of bracket of say another 1 and then 2,2..etc

hornbuckleb · July 20, 2015, 10:03:05 PM

Quote from: hornbuckleb on July 20, 2015, 09:44:09 PM
Quote from: mike on July 20, 2015, 08:21:09 PM
Quote from: hornbuckleb on July 20, 2015, 07:31:28 PM
They do not seed at Fargo but rather use a separation criteria. Doc and Boo sometimes you scare me

Junior Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Junior World placer in and out of style
2 Junior/FILA Jr National champion in style,FILA Cadet World placer in style
3 Cadet FILA World Placer out of style, Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion in style
5 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 in style, Junior/FILA JR National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 in style
7 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 5-8 in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion out of style
8 Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 out of style
9 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 out of style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 out of style
10 Junior Regional Champion in style

Cadet Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Cadet and above World placer in and out of style
2 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National champion in style
3 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 5-8 in style
5 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 2-4 out of style
7 Cadet Regional Champion in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 5-8 out of style
8 Schoolboy National Champion in style
9 Schoolboy National Placer 2-4 in style
10 Schoolboy National Champion out of style

So how does seperation point criteria work? How are they separated from others? Thanks

Wrestlers are separated by criteria above and state then randomly drawn by track. 1 opposite side of bracket of say another 1 and then 2,2..etc

Example:
If 5 wrestlers have earned separation point allocations then technically those individuals will be separated similar to seeding, but only those five. Any wrestler without separation point allocations are randomly drawn and assigned.

buc65 · July 21, 2015, 05:34:25 AM

Quote from: hornbuckleb on July 20, 2015, 10:03:05 PM
Quote from: hornbuckleb on July 20, 2015, 09:44:09 PM
Quote from: mike on July 20, 2015, 08:21:09 PM
Quote from: hornbuckleb on July 20, 2015, 07:31:28 PM
They do not seed at Fargo but rather use a separation criteria. Doc and Boo sometimes you scare me

Junior Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Junior World placer in and out of style
2 Junior/FILA Jr National champion in style,FILA Cadet World placer in style
3 Cadet FILA World Placer out of style, Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion in style
5 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 in style, Junior/FILA JR National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 in style
7 Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 5-8 in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National Champion out of style
8 Junior/FILA JR National placer 2-4 out of style
9 Junior/FILA JR National placer 5-8 out of style, Cadet/FILA Cadet National placer 2-4 out of style
10 Junior Regional Champion in style

Cadet Nationals Separation Point Allocations
Previous and or current year
1 FILA Cadet and above World placer in and out of style
2 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National champion in style
3 Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 2-4 in style
4 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 5-8 in style
5 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National Champion out of style
6 Cadet/FILA Cadet & above National placer 2-4 out of style
7 Cadet Regional Champion in style, Cadet/FILA Cadet and above National placer 5-8 out of style
8 Schoolboy National Champion in style
9 Schoolboy National Placer 2-4 in style
10 Schoolboy National Champion out of style

So how does seperation point criteria work? How are they separated from others? Thanks

Wrestlers are separated by criteria above and state then randomly drawn by track. 1 opposite side of bracket of say another 1 and then 2,2..etc

Example:
If 5 wrestlers have earned separation point allocations then technically those individuals will be separated similar to seeding, but only those five. Any wrestler without separation point allocations are randomly drawn and assigned.

#1 seed - Nielsen - 5th place Junior Greco 2014 - criteria 5 Junior separation
#2 seed - Rundell - 1st place Folkstyle 2014 - criteria 5 Junior separation
#3 seed - Berreyesa - 8th place UWW Cadet Greco 2015 - criteria 7 Junior separation
#4 seed - Breske - 1st place Cadet Greco 2014 - criteria 2 Cadet separation

digimon · July 21, 2015, 07:28:54 AM

Breske will just have to beat them all no matter what his seed is to win it all ! He's very capable of doing just that. Good luck to all our Wisconsin competitors.

DocWrestling · July 21, 2015, 07:56:47 AM

Wasn't Breske a Cadet National Champ last year? Doesn't that make him a Level 4 on Juniors? Why does it say he is level 6?