D1 182

TomM · February 23, 2015, 06:19:25 PM

Quote from: npope on February 23, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
Quote from: TomM on February 23, 2015, 05:45:24 PM
It's hard to make predictions when they are in the future.

I predict that we are getting tire of you telling us that one, Tom

You can say that again.

Pheasant 1984 · February 23, 2015, 06:30:40 PM

My high school coach always said to be the best you will have to beat the best! Get er done!

maggie · February 23, 2015, 06:34:12 PM

Topic is D1 182, I'm ALL IN on the kid from Milton, Bowen Wileman...that's all i can say i guess....

The Last Ride · February 23, 2015, 06:40:33 PM

Quote from: npope on February 23, 2015, 02:30:26 PM
The need to seed is a reflection of people's concern for placement. I get it, but I don't buy it. For school aged kids we should value process over outcomes (IMHO) because the skills and attributes derived from the experience are the long-term values we purport to be seeking to develop; the outcome (i.e., placement) is just the carrot that has been employed to induce the kids to chase this pursuit with effort, intensity and honor. The color of a medal fades and tarnishes with time, the values derived from stepping up and accepting a true challenge will linger long after the finish on medals are indistinguishable from one another.

While the kids can be forgiven for not knowing better, one would think adults might have a better perspective. Everybody is equal at the state meet - I love it!

Nobody can dispute the fact that we see the real state title wrestled in the Quarters at times... I don't care what the bracket says.. There will be a true state champ though... can't argue that...

MHSfan · February 23, 2015, 06:40:41 PM

The only seeding I'm in favor of is splitting finalist from the previous year up. Especially champs.

whatever · February 24, 2015, 11:44:57 AM

Seems like everyone is preaching to the choir.....and the wrong choir.

I was at the Regionals where a parent of ours was a former high school classmate of Mr. Wade Labecki.

Mr. Labecki told this parent that the WIAA WANTS the State individual tournament to be seeded and even has a formula to do so.

However, the change must come from the WWCA and the coaches are the ones who are unwilling to propose the change to seed the State tournament.

The Last Ride · February 24, 2015, 01:18:36 PM

Quote from: whatever on February 24, 2015, 11:44:57 AM
Seems like everyone is preaching to the choir.....and the wrong choir.

I was at the Regionals where a parent of ours was a former high school classmate of Mr. Wade Labecki.

Mr. Labecki told this parent that the WIAA WANTS the State individual tournament to be seeded and even has a formula to do so.

However, the change must come from the WWCA and the coaches are the ones who are unwilling to propose the change to seed the State tournament.

Well there you have it.....Hope to see you in Madtown whatever...

Ino · February 24, 2015, 01:22:18 PM

Quote from: Tews19 on February 24, 2015, 12:23:44 PM
Even the WWF is seeding wrestlers in their respective regionals. First year this will be implemented.

I wouldn't call it seeding, they are separating state qualifiers from last year at regionals and then it is still a random draw for the state brackets.

Paul Harvey · February 24, 2015, 01:53:11 PM

Quote from: whatever on February 24, 2015, 11:44:57 AM
Seems like everyone is preaching to the choir.....and the wrong choir.

I was at the Regionals where a parent of ours was a former high school classmate of Mr. Wade Labecki.

Mr. Labecki told this parent that the WIAA WANTS the State individual tournament to be seeded and even has a formula to do so.

However, the change must come from the WWCA and the coaches are the ones who are unwilling to propose the change to seed the State tournament.

Interesting.....this is somewhat surprising to me. Time to start lobbying the coaches......

whatever · February 25, 2015, 07:21:11 AM

Quote from: The Last Ride on February 24, 2015, 01:18:36 PM
Quote from: whatever on February 24, 2015, 11:44:57 AM
Seems like everyone is preaching to the choir.....and the wrong choir.

I was at the Regionals where a parent of ours was a former high school classmate of Mr. Wade Labecki.

Mr. Labecki told this parent that the WIAA WANTS the State individual tournament to be seeded and even has a formula to do so.

However, the change must come from the WWCA and the coaches are the ones who are unwilling to propose the change to seed the State tournament.

Well there you have it.....Hope to see you in Madtown whatever...

I'll be sure to look you up, LR....I think I have a pretty good recollection of where that Hudson bunch is situated...

dforsythe · February 26, 2015, 09:00:27 AM

Quote from: Paul Harvey on February 23, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on February 23, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
what are the advantages of seeding a tournament full of quality wrestlers? I mean in a way they are seeded first round, would it be better to have sectional champ vs sectional champ? So now we are talking about quarters, is it wrong to have 2 top 4 wrestlers meet in the quarters but OK for them to meet in the semis? Who is being cheated? The guy placing 3rd that "might" have had 2nd as if we are so sure he would have beat the runner up? In my opinion the only thing cheating anyone is not having double elimination.

Why do other great wrestling States seed? Why are the Big10s seeded? Why does the NCAA seed the national tournament? Surely they must be all wrong, right?

Is their something special about the WIAA that we feel it has no impact on the State Tournaments?

The Big10s and NCAA are seeded because of the team scores.