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Title: Weight Certification Max
Post by: Keel on October 17, 2013, 09:02:31 AM
Weight certification is around the corner. Wouldn't it be great if you weighed your certified weight at certification? Many of you are carrying some extra weight right now and end up not being able to wrestle your certified weight when the matches start because you weighed too much at certification. My calculator will help you prevent that from happening. It will show you how much you need to weigh at certification in order to wrestle your desired weight class at your first match, ASSUMING YOU ACTUALLY CERTIFIED FOR THAT DESIRED WEIGHT CLASS!

1) Go to http://www.whatcaniweigh.com
2) Select your state
3) Set Date #1 to the date you plan to certify
4) Set Date #2 to the date of your first match
5) Set the weight class you want to wrestle at your first match
6) Click Get Your Weight and scroll down to see the most you can weigh at certification and still wrestle your desired weight class at your first match

IMPORTANT NOTES:
!!! YOU STILL NEED TO CERTIFY FOR THAT WEIGHT CLASS !!!
This calculator assumes that you actually certified for your desired weight class.
Make sure you talk to your coach or trainer about how body fat and hydration effect the certification process. Also make sure you understand your state specific rules regarding weight certification.
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: bkraus on October 17, 2013, 10:10:10 AM
It's not this easy.  It doesn't take body fat percentage into account at all.  Just because a kid weighs 140 today, doesn't mean he can wrestle 126 on Dec 5.  I know by the half pound a day standard they can, but what if the kid measures 8% today.  No way can he do that.
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: CLC FAN on October 17, 2013, 10:29:47 AM
But... if you as a coach have last year's body fat % from the WIAA printout they send, you can make a very reasonable estimation of the kid's body fat and then reverse-calculate what the kid would need to weigh this year at certification in order to make any given weight class.

So let's say last year a kid had 9% body fat and this year he wants to certify for 138.

Weight at certification = (desired wt class * 0.93)
                                          Lean mass percent

For our example

Weight at certification  =  138*0.93
                                            0.91


                                     = 141.03

These estimates have a little margin of error built in because they are calculated in order to not have to use parent permission.
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: bkraus on October 17, 2013, 01:27:53 PM
Quote from: CLC FAN on October 17, 2013, 10:29:47 AM
But... if you as a coach have last year's body fat % from the WIAA printout they send, you can make a very reasonable estimation of the kid's body fat and then reverse-calculate what the kid would need to weigh this year at certification in order to make any given weight class.

So let's say last year a kid had 9% body fat and this year he wants to certify for 138.

Weight at certification = (desired wt class * 0.93)
                                          Lean mass percent

For our example

Weight at certification  =  138*0.93
                                            0.91


                                     = 141.03

These estimates have a little margin of error built in because they are calculated in order to not have to use parent permission.

I feel like the guy on the At&t commercials...   Mind blown!  :-\
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: uncle Fester on October 17, 2013, 02:07:12 PM
that even has fester scratching his head...
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: CLC FAN on October 17, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
It's like any formula... it's confusing until you start trying to use it.  But really you are inputting two numbers into the formula, and it spits out one number at you - the amount you should try to be under on skinfold day.

bkraus (or anyone)... wanna pick a desired weight class?
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: uncle Fester on October 17, 2013, 03:12:30 PM
how about pie r squared times number of silo rungs in a 80 foot silo divided by the number of dangerous cramps you occur in a fester training session
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: Street Glide on October 17, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
How about common sense.  Festers method may be the most interesting.
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: Ghetto on October 17, 2013, 05:20:37 PM
CLC is smarter than most of us. It's that simple.

I'm only smart enough to plug in the numbers.
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: matdaddy on October 17, 2013, 07:38:11 PM
Phil,has anyone heard from Phil,he'd be smart enough to figure this out.
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: CLC FAN on October 17, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
How about 1 post at a time then.
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: CLC FAN on October 17, 2013, 07:46:49 PM
Jon Smith wants to wrestle 152 this year
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: CLC FAN on October 17, 2013, 07:47:08 PM
Last year he had 13% body fat
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: CLC FAN on October 17, 2013, 07:47:55 PM
So his lean mass (the weight of everything in his body except the fat) was 87% of his body
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: CLC FAN on October 17, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
152*0.93/0.87 = 162.5

So Jon Smith can weigh up to 162.5 and still certify for 152 this year.
Title: Re: Weight Certification Max
Post by: imnofish on October 17, 2013, 10:56:13 PM
I believe in the K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) theory of weight control.  John Azevedo described this method at a wrestling camp my son attended; his junior and senior years, he used this method to show up for his fat test at his optimum wrestling weight.  In June, he began to gradually increase his running AND his water intake, continuing this trend through the summer and autumn.  During this time he ate a healthy diet and gradually minimized his intake of sweets.  That's it.  Worked like a charm.  I should point out that he was also lifting weights during that time.  He continued the additional running and stayed well-hydrated during the season.  He just had to monitor the fluid levels for the last day before a competition, to make sure that he wasn't bloated.  He was very lean, but his metabolism was working so efficiently that he could eat school lunch (salad bar) daily during the season and still maintain his weight.