Federal Court-wolf hunting ends now

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ramjet

Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: ramjet on January 10, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: maggie on January 10, 2015, 07:48:20 AM
"Extremest groups".... :)...Maggie's got news for ya little buddy, all groups are Extremest when there fighting for there cause...yes, even the one you belong too.. ;)

LOL little buddy you are as extreme as they come but understand you are hurting alittle from recent events you should be just as outraged the judge stepped down n where she did not belong.

HamdlesII we had season the judge overturned it based her liberal agenda not science.

The season was started by political extremists with a pro-hunt agenda. There ya go. Wait for hunt/trap to be included in the management plan, and you have your hunt/trap. Your guys jumped the gun (pardon the pun.)

Yea same extremist group that wants us to have deer season or squirrel season or rabbit season or grouse season or duck season or yoddle pup season or fishing season or turkey season........

bigG

Quote from: ramjet on January 11, 2015, 11:21:10 AM
Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: ramjet on January 10, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: maggie on January 10, 2015, 07:48:20 AM
"Extremest groups".... :)...Maggie's got news for ya little buddy, all groups are Extremest when there fighting for there cause...yes, even the one you belong too.. ;)

LOL little buddy you are as extreme as they come but understand you are hurting alittle from recent events you should be just as outraged the judge stepped down n where she did not belong.

HamdlesII we had season the judge overturned it based her liberal agenda not science.

The season was started by political extremists with a pro-hunt agenda. There ya go. Wait for hunt/trap to be included in the management plan, and you have your hunt/trap. Your guys jumped the gun (pardon the pun.)

Yea same extremist group that wants us to have deer season or squirrel season or rabbit season or grouse season or duck season or yoddle pup season or fishing season or turkey season........

I agree with Hitler on a few things. Doesn't mean I'd vote for him.
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

ramjet

Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 11:30:01 AM
Quote from: ramjet on January 11, 2015, 11:21:10 AM
Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: ramjet on January 10, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
Quote from: maggie on January 10, 2015, 07:48:20 AM
"Extremest groups".... :)...Maggie's got news for ya little buddy, all groups are Extremest when there fighting for there cause...yes, even the one you belong too.. ;)

LOL little buddy you are as extreme as they come but understand you are hurting alittle from recent events you should be just as outraged the judge stepped down n where she did not belong.

HamdlesII we had season the judge overturned it based her liberal agenda not science.

The season was started by political extremists with a pro-hunt agenda. There ya go. Wait for hunt/trap to be included in the management plan, and you have your hunt/trap. Your guys jumped the gun (pardon the pun.)

Yea same extremist group that wants us to have deer season or squirrel season or rabbit season or grouse season or duck season or yoddle pup season or fishing season or turkey season........

I agree with Hitler on a few things. Doesn't mean I'd vote for him.

So the same system and process that set the other seasons is wrong too if Imuse the way you are looking at this. Yes or NO

imnofish

The Obama Administration delisted the wolf; then a judge appointed by President Obama ruled against their decision.  Pretty ironic.
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ramjet

Quote from: imnofish on January 11, 2015, 03:44:50 PM
The Obama Administration delisted the wolf; then a judge appointed by President Obama ruled against their decision.  Pretty ironic.

National Fish and Game Dept Biologists on that staff they do have them despite what G and HandlesII think.

Political driven tree hugger judge but she like on most of her controversial rulings will be overturned.

bigG

The other seasons didn't involve an endangered species. You ready for eagle season?

You fail to provide evidence of these biologists. There must be a few. So, the fellas that write the addenda to the magmnt. plan and determine hunting/trapping won't hurt the chances of staying strong. Let them make that call.

NFG biologists generally share their work with the state teams. Super. You should be able to kill wolves soon. Patience. If you're bored come on down an smack some yotes. Some ferals in Crawford, too; if ya wanna go south.
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

ramjet

Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
The other seasons didn't involve an endangered species. You ready for eagle season?

You fail to provide evidence of these biologists. There must be a few. So, the fellas that write the addenda to the magmnt. plan and determine hunting/trapping won't hurt the chances of staying strong. Let them make that call.

NFG biologists generally share their work with the state teams. Super. You should be able to kill wolves soon. Patience. If you're bored come on down an smack some yotes. Some ferals in Crawford, too; if ya wanna go south.

Do you think that the DNR and USFW ahave on thier payrolls biologists or not?

imnofish

It would be interesting to get this guy's take on this topic.  Very knowledgeable and experienced, plus he was one of our wrestlers. 

http://www.agriview.com/briefs/livestock/suckow-appointed-ws-western-regional-director/article_8bd9f1bf-65a9-534f-83cd-8b11fb357eac.html

Jason Suckow
Wisconsin State Director, Wildlife Biologist
USDA APHIS Wildlife Services
Phone: 608-837-2727
Email: Jason.Suckow@aphis.usda.gov
None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. -Johann Von Goethe

Some days it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints!

wrestle84

Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
The other seasons didn't involve an endangered species. You ready for eagle season?

You fail to provide evidence of these biologists. There must be a few. So, the fellas that write the addenda to the magmnt. plan and determine hunting/trapping won't hurt the chances of staying strong. Let them make that call.

NFG biologists generally share their work with the state teams. Super. You should be able to kill wolves soon. Patience. If you're bored come on down an smack some yotes. Some ferals in Crawford, too; if ya wanna go south.

Wolves were not on the endangered list when a season was implemented.

The judges ruling had nothing to do with how the wolves season was implemtd, it was about how the were delisted, which had nothing to do with the state. It is a fed issue. All the blowing you have been doing about the state pols jumping the gun on a season has no bearing on the Feds decision to delist or the judges decision to overturn that delisting.

bigG

Quote from: wrestle84 on January 11, 2015, 09:47:59 PM
Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
The other seasons didn't involve an endangered species. You ready for eagle season?

You fail to provide evidence of these biologists. There must be a few. So, the fellas that write the addenda to the magmnt. plan and determine hunting/trapping won't hurt the chances of staying strong. Let them make that call.

NFG biologists generally share their work with the state teams. Super. You should be able to kill wolves soon. Patience. If you're bored come on down an smack some yotes. Some ferals in Crawford, too; if ya wanna go south.

Wolves were not on the endangered list when a season was implemented.

The judges ruling had nothing to do with how the wolves season was implemtd, it was about how the were delisted, which had nothing to do with the state. It is a fed issue. All the blowing you have been doing about the state pols jumping the gun on a season has no bearing on the Feds decision to delist or the judges decision to overturn that delisting.

Just going by what biologists did say, including Dick Thiel. He called it. He said if you go ahead with it at the time they did, this thing would get wrapped up in the courts.
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

maggie

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Handles II

Quote from: ramjet on January 11, 2015, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
The other seasons didn't involve an endangered species. You ready for eagle season?

You fail to provide evidence of these biologists. There must be a few. So, the fellas that write the addenda to the magmnt. plan and determine hunting/trapping won't hurt the chances of staying strong. Let them make that call.

NFG biologists generally share their work with the state teams. Super. You should be able to kill wolves soon. Patience. If you're bored come on down an smack some yotes. Some ferals in Crawford, too; if ya wanna go south.

Do you think that the DNR and USFW ahave on thier payrolls biologists or not?
Yes they do. I've quoted them. What are they saying about the wolf hunt in wisconsin and how it became law Ramjet?

ramjet

Quote from: Handles II on January 12, 2015, 08:05:23 AM
Quote from: ramjet on January 11, 2015, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: bigG on January 11, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
The other seasons didn't involve an endangered species. You ready for eagle season?

You fail to provide evidence of these biologists. There must be a few. So, the fellas that write the addenda to the magmnt. plan and determine hunting/trapping won't hurt the chances of staying strong. Let them make that call.

NFG biologists generally share their work with the state teams. Super. You should be able to kill wolves soon. Patience. If you're bored come on down an smack some yotes. Some ferals in Crawford, too; if ya wanna go south.

Do you think that the DNR and USFW ahave on thier payrolls biologists or not?
Yes they do. I've quoted them. What are they saying about the wolf hunt in wisconsin and how it became law Ramjet?

So let's say the emotional stance you have on this is correct and we need more wolves as you seem to advocate......would you allow the DNR to set free a pack of 5 on You're hunting land?

Handles II

The wolves are free to go where they like. Bears, bobcats and coyotes all have been on camera where I hunt. Bears, bobcats and coyotes have been shown to kill more deer than wolves as you know. Reading deeper into the resources you provided, studies on 200 wolves averaged 1.9 deer per square mile of range per year. Far less than car kills.
And speaking of cars, you have one right ramjet? If you feel you don't want to hunt where wolves are, you can simply jump in your car and hunt elsewhere. Problem solved.
It's too bad the GOP bumbled this one so badly, not surprising though, using science and evidence to help guide decisions isn't their strong-suit.

ramjet

Quote from: Handles II on January 12, 2015, 09:55:47 AM
The wolves are free to go where they like. Bears, bobcats and coyotes all have been on camera where I hunt. Bears, bobcats and coyotes have been shown to kill more deer than wolves as you know. Reading deeper into the resources you provided, studies on 200 wolves averaged 1.9 deer per square mile of range per year. Far less than car kills.
And speaking of cars, you have one right ramjet? If you feel you don't want to hunt where wolves are, you can simply jump in your car and hunt elsewhere. Problem solved.
It's too bad the GOP bumbled this one so badly, not surprising though, using science and evidence to help guide decisions isn't their strong-suit.

Stop deflecting and answer the question yes or no?