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Title: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on May 14, 2013, 09:27:05 PM
Ricky Weeks and John Axford.  It's not even that these guys aren't helping the team they actually are hurting the team and in the case of Axford, when he hurts the team he costs the team the game.  If I was as bad at my job as Axford is, I'd be fired and rightfully so.  The guy has a couple things he has to do.  Pitch one inning and don't give up runs. 

I long for the old days when Krod and Axford were Battling it out for the closer position.  Now no one really wants it and Axford doesn't deserve a spot on this roster.  When does Krod get here?

Ricky Weeks was in the game why tonight?  He pinch hit why yesterday?  Ugh.  If you're going to sit him, sit him.  Weeks lives on a 1/2 season of great baseball and one All Star Bid.  After that he's been nothing but either terribly awful, inconsistent or hurt. 

Ok, I'm done and I feel better.  Thanks.

Sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining.   ;D
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 09:36:10 PM
It's downright painful to watch those two right now. They both have either lost it physically, or more likely, have such huge mental blocks that they can't perform.

What do you do with Weeks? IDK. Do you let him ride the bench? You obviously need to figure things out with him, because when hot, he's so dangerous. Scooter Ginnett keeps playing well, but even at his best, he's nowhere near the talent level of Weeks. His production might be better however.

Get the lead runner on and nothing in the 10th. Ugh.

I think you stick with Weeks for the rest of the month. That's a ton of time to get right. The Brewers are still hanging on, and you never know what might happen later on down the road.

Axford can go. I just can't do it anymore. His command of his breaking pitch is almost non existent. And when that's gone, he's batting practice.

Lohse can't catch a break. The guy struggled once, but still held it together, and they didn't win. He leaves them with I think his sixth quality start but isn't getting wins.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on May 14, 2013, 09:41:11 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 09:36:10 PM
It's downright painful to watch those two right now. They both have either lost it physically, or more likely, have such huge mental blocks that they can't perform.

What do you do with Weeks? IDK. Do you let him ride the bench? You obviously need to figure things out with him, because when hot, he's so dangerous. Scooter Ginnett keeps playing well, but even at his best, he's nowhere near the talent level of Weeks. His production might be better however.

Get the lead runner on and nothing in the 10th. Ugh.

I think you stick with Weeks for the rest of the month. That's a ton of time to get right. The Brewers are still hanging on, and you never know what might happen later on down the road.

Axford can go. I just can't do it anymore. His command of his breaking pitch is almost non existent. And when that's gone, he's batting practice.

Lohse can't catch a break. The guy struggled once, but still held it together, and they didn't win. He leaves them with I think his sixth quality start but isn't getting wins.

Yeah, there's not much else you can do with Weeks other than the "wait and see if he comes around" because we got him.  At least he isn't blowing games like Axblow.  I feel bad for Lohse.  The guy has pitched well enough for a much better record and either he gets zero run support early in the season or the bullpen kills him.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next. 

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on May 14, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next. 

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.

If Weeks gets hot and has one of his half season comebacks can they trade him?  Get his numbers up then cut bait!
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Houndhead on May 15, 2013, 06:40:03 AM
Quote from: Todd on May 14, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next. 

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.

If Weeks gets hot and has one of his half season comebacks can they trade him?  Get his numbers up then cut bait!

So you want him to sit on the bench indefinitely and get his numbers up so we can trade him? Makes sense.  Todd logic.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: bkraus on May 15, 2013, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next. 

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.

I think they should play the both of them until they work it out, at least through the St Louis series!   ;)
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on May 16, 2013, 04:03:09 PM
Quote from: Houndhead on May 15, 2013, 06:40:03 AM
Quote from: Todd on May 14, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next. 

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.

If Weeks gets hot and has one of his half season comebacks can they trade him?  Get his numbers up then cut bait!

So you want him to sit on the bench indefinitely and get his numbers up so we can trade him? Makes sense.  Todd logic.

Just because you hate  my political view, doesn't mean you need to be a jerk in the sports forum too.  If you look, I was responding to Ghettos reply that we are on the hook so we really need to play him.  I agree, and hopefully he'll get hot and they can trade him away.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on May 16, 2013, 04:04:17 PM
Quote from: bkraus on May 15, 2013, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next. 

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.

I think they should play the both of them until they work it out, at least through the St Louis series!   ;)

Ha, funny.  Axford should not enter a game unless The Brewers are + or - 3 runs.  Let them work it out that way.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: DrSnide on May 16, 2013, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: Todd on May 16, 2013, 04:04:17 PM
Quote from: bkraus on May 15, 2013, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next.  

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.

I think they should play the both of them until they work it out, at least through the St Louis series!   ;)

Ha, funny.  Axford should not enter a game unless The Brewers are + or - 3 runs.  Let them work it out that way.

Oh I would go 5 runs.  I've seen Ax burn through 3 run leads pretty quickly.

But hey, we got K-Rod coming back.  First Yuni, now K-rod, its like all my Brewer nightmares are coming back.  Hopefully it works as well as Yunni did the first month and a half at least.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on May 16, 2013, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: DrSnide on May 16, 2013, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: Todd on May 16, 2013, 04:04:17 PM
Quote from: bkraus on May 15, 2013, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next.  

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.

I think they should play the both of them until they work it out, at least through the St Louis series!   ;)

Ha, funny.  Axford should not enter a game unless The Brewers are + or - 3 runs.  Let them work it out that way.

Oh I would go 5 runs.  I've seen Ax burn through 3 run leads pretty quickly.

But hey, we got K-Rod coming back.  First Yuni, now K-rod, its like all my Brewer nightmares are coming back.  Hopefully it works as well as Yunni did the first month and a half at least.

How about bringing back T-Plush?
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: littleguy301 on May 16, 2013, 08:37:57 PM
Cannt spell Weeks without 2 E's and a K!
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Ghetto on May 16, 2013, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: littleguy301 on May 16, 2013, 08:37:57 PM
Cannt spell Weeks without 2 E's and a K!

Hahahahahhahahahah!

T Plush is hitting .132 in Japan. I'm guessing he's played his last game in any MLB uniform, Todd. I know you were joking however.

Casey McGehee is hitting almost .400 however. I'm sure he'll be on someone else's roster next season.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: littleguy301 on May 17, 2013, 07:46:19 AM
I liked Casey McGhee, maybe not the most talented player but he was a worker and I respected that.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on May 17, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
Is McGee in Japan as well?  Yes I was joking about TPlush, that guy was aweful and unstable.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Ghetto on May 17, 2013, 09:26:11 AM
Quote from: Todd on May 17, 2013, 08:23:58 AM
Is McGee in Japan as well?  Yes I was joking about TPlush, that guy was aweful and unstable.

McGhee is hitting .396 in Japan
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Houndhead on May 19, 2013, 07:07:39 PM
Quote from: Todd on May 16, 2013, 04:03:09 PM
Quote from: Houndhead on May 15, 2013, 06:40:03 AM
Quote from: Todd on May 14, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on May 14, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
The Brewers are on the hook with Weeks until 2015 at the tune of like 9.5 million per. He has to produce. No one will trade for him at that price, and he can't sit at that price either.

Axford got $5 million this year. Nothing guaranteed for next. 

The Brewers have to make a decision on K rod by Thursday. Maybe his call up will be the end for Axford.  Likely they'll drop one of the younger guys to AAA.



If Weeks gets hot and has one of his half season comebacks can they trade him?  Get his numbers up then cut bait!

So you want him to sit on the bench indefinitely and get his numbers up so we can trade him? Makes sense.  Todd logic.

Just because you hate  my political view, doesn't mean you need to be a jerk in the sports forum too.  If you look, I was responding to Ghettos reply that we are on the hook so we really need to play him.  I agree, and hopefully he'll get hot and they can trade him away.

Sorry, my bad. I failed to grasp that when you started a thread with the title "2 players that should be sitting indefinitely", you actually meant they should keep playing. Not sure how I screwed that up. I will try not to let it happen again.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Houndhead on June 24, 2013, 05:39:54 AM
So, Axford now has 19 scoreless outings in a row, and Rickie Weeks is one of the brewers hottest hitters. It is time to send Scooter back down so Rickie can play everyday and maybe someone will want him by the trade deadline.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: bigG on June 25, 2013, 11:05:42 AM
Strange how things turn, eh? I agree.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Ghetto on June 25, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
Weeks when hot can carry the Brewers. Still not a big Axford guy.

Genett had his shot for now, and he just couldn't hit. He's got a lot of years ahead of him.

Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Houndhead on June 25, 2013, 12:18:56 PM
Quote from: Ghetto on June 25, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
Weeks when hot can carry the Brewers. Still not a big Axford guy.

Genett had his shot for now, and he just couldn't hit. He's got a lot of years ahead of him.



I don't think Gennett has been terrible, and would probably come around if he played everyday. I just think Weeks needs to play everyday if they have any thoughts of trading him. The thing with Weeks is even when his average is at .220, his on base percentage is still one of the best on the team. Plus he provides a power threat without Braun and Hart in the line up.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: velcroe on June 25, 2013, 01:15:24 PM
What can we get if we trade Maldonado, Betancourt, and Francisco (all under .205).  I would even throw in .228 hitter Schaefer who has as much power as a junior high girl.  3 fat guys who cant run or hit. 
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Houndhead on June 25, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: velcroe on June 25, 2013, 01:15:24 PM
What can we get if we trade Maldonado, Betancourt, and Francisco (all under .205).  I would even throw in .228 hitter Schaefer who has as much power as a junior high girl.  3 fat guys who cant run or hit. 

A bag of balls and some eye black.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Houndhead on June 27, 2013, 07:28:09 AM
Too bad the Brewers had a chance to tie the game last night and did not have a better option than Yuni at the plate. Yuni had a great 3 week run but has regressed to the player he has always been, which is not worthy of a roster spot.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Ghetto on June 27, 2013, 08:46:38 AM
Quote from: Houndhead on June 27, 2013, 07:28:09 AM
Too bad the Brewers had a chance to tie the game last night and did not have a better option than Yuni at the plate. Yuni had a great 3 week run but has regressed to the player he has always been, which is not worthy of a roster spot.

+1

Let the kids play. Let Francisco and Betancort go. Let our young guys get a chance to play meaningful games in the major leagues.

Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Houndhead on July 01, 2013, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: Todd on May 14, 2013, 09:27:05 PM
Ricky Weeks and John Axford.  It's not even that these guys aren't helping the team they actually are hurting the team and in the case of Axford, when he hurts the team he costs the team the game.  If I was as bad at my job as Axford is, I'd be fired and rightfully so.  The guy has a couple things he has to do.  Pitch one inning and don't give up runs. 

I long for the old days when Krod and Axford were Battling it out for the closer position.  Now no one really wants it and Axford doesn't deserve a spot on this roster.  When does Krod get here?

Ricky Weeks was in the game why tonight?  He pinch hit why yesterday?  Ugh.  If you're going to sit him, sit him.  Weeks lives on a 1/2 season of great baseball and one All Star Bid.  After that he's been nothing but either terribly awful, inconsistent or hurt. 

Ok, I'm done and I feel better.  Thanks.

Sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining.   ;D

Do you stand by your assertion that Axford and Weeks should sit indefinately?
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on July 01, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: Houndhead on July 01, 2013, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: Todd on May 14, 2013, 09:27:05 PM
Ricky Weeks and John Axford.  It's not even that these guys aren't helping the team they actually are hurting the team and in the case of Axford, when he hurts the team he costs the team the game.  If I was as bad at my job as Axford is, I'd be fired and rightfully so.  The guy has a couple things he has to do.  Pitch one inning and don't give up runs. 

I long for the old days when Krod and Axford were Battling it out for the closer position.  Now no one really wants it and Axford doesn't deserve a spot on this roster.  When does Krod get here?

Ricky Weeks was in the game why tonight?  He pinch hit why yesterday?  Ugh.  If you're going to sit him, sit him.  Weeks lives on a 1/2 season of great baseball and one All Star Bid.  After that he's been nothing but either terribly awful, inconsistent or hurt. 

Ok, I'm done and I feel better.  Thanks.

Sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining.   ;D

Do you stand by your assertion that Axford and Weeks should sit indefinately?

I guess that's why I don't get paid the big bucks in baseball.  I think they should get what they can out of Weeks and deal him.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Houndhead on July 01, 2013, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: Todd on July 01, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: Houndhead on July 01, 2013, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: Todd on May 14, 2013, 09:27:05 PM
Ricky Weeks and John Axford.  It's not even that these guys aren't helping the team they actually are hurting the team and in the case of Axford, when he hurts the team he costs the team the game.  If I was as bad at my job as Axford is, I'd be fired and rightfully so.  The guy has a couple things he has to do.  Pitch one inning and don't give up runs. 

I long for the old days when Krod and Axford were Battling it out for the closer position.  Now no one really wants it and Axford doesn't deserve a spot on this roster.  When does Krod get here?

Ricky Weeks was in the game why tonight?  He pinch hit why yesterday?  Ugh.  If you're going to sit him, sit him.  Weeks lives on a 1/2 season of great baseball and one All Star Bid.  After that he's been nothing but either terribly awful, inconsistent or hurt. 

Ok, I'm done and I feel better.  Thanks.

Sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining.   ;D

Do you stand by your assertion that Axford and Weeks should sit indefinately?

I guess that's why I don't get paid the big bucks in baseball.  I think they should get what they can out of Weeks and deal him.

Weeks is a guy that I have always rooted for. He is a likeable player, and from all accounts one of the hardest workers on the team. I understand why fans want to see him leave. The prolonged slumps get old fast. I think they should trade him if they can get a good deal done. I don't think they should trade him just for the sake of getting rid of him. He is one of those guys that will be a perenial all-star when he is on another team. He can always be trade bait again next year after we are out of the race.
Title: Re: 2 players that should be sitting indefinately
Post by: Todd on July 01, 2013, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: Houndhead on July 01, 2013, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: Todd on July 01, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: Houndhead on July 01, 2013, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: Todd on May 14, 2013, 09:27:05 PM
Ricky Weeks and John Axford.  It's not even that these guys aren't helping the team they actually are hurting the team and in the case of Axford, when he hurts the team he costs the team the game.  If I was as bad at my job as Axford is, I'd be fired and rightfully so.  The guy has a couple things he has to do.  Pitch one inning and don't give up runs. 

I long for the old days when Krod and Axford were Battling it out for the closer position.  Now no one really wants it and Axford doesn't deserve a spot on this roster.  When does Krod get here?

Ricky Weeks was in the game why tonight?  He pinch hit why yesterday?  Ugh.  If you're going to sit him, sit him.  Weeks lives on a 1/2 season of great baseball and one All Star Bid.  After that he's been nothing but either terribly awful, inconsistent or hurt. 

Ok, I'm done and I feel better.  Thanks.

Sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining, sports are entertaining.   ;D

Do you stand by your assertion that Axford and Weeks should sit indefinately?

I guess that's why I don't get paid the big bucks in baseball.  I think they should get what they can out of Weeks and deal him.

Weeks is a guy that I have always rooted for. He is a likeable player, and from all accounts one of the hardest workers on the team. I understand why fans want to see him leave. The prolonged slumps get old fast. I think they should trade him if they can get a good deal done. I don't think they should trade him just for the sake of getting rid of him. He is one of those guys that will be a perenial all-star when he is on another team. He can always be trade bait again next year after we are out of the race.

If there haven't been multiple years of injury/inconsistency I would agree with you.  Weeks had a great 1/2 year that got him into the All Star Game and that type play has not been seen since.  I hope he continues to hold his own do well and The Brewers get what they can.  I like him too but there are plenty of players I've liked that just weren't a good fit.