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Title: 2013-14 team
Post by: BuckyMatt on March 24, 2013, 09:47:32 AM
With the season now officially behind us, my early predictions for next's years team.  Should be exciting!!

125-Ryan Taylor; The #35 ranked recruit in 2012.  Showed tremendous dedication by following a plan that had him start at MATC and transfer in to UW at semester.  Can't wait for him to get into a Badger singlet.  Wouldn't be shocked to see him make some noise at Nationals his first year.  Should be a loaded B1G with Delgado and Corey Clark and Niko so I am curious how he stacks up against them!  Maybe start out ranked 20ish given he didn't wrestle in many opens but should climb the rankings quickly.

133-Graff; High AA next year, I have a feeling he is going to work this summer harder than he ever has  (which is saying something given his well documented work ethic) to improve on his 5, 5, 3 finish at nationals.  Can't wait to see his SR year play out.  Will go down as one of my all time favorite Badgers given his commitment to the team through all of the turmoil and his modest, hard working attitude.  Will start the season ranked #3 behind Ramos and Logan S.

141-Thielke-Jesse is arguably one of the greatest high school wrestlers in Wisconsin history and did nothing to quite the hype with a very strong showing at the Midlands.  Working out with Graff, there is no reason not to expect him to be a high AA next year.  Should be the face of the Badgers for years to come.  I am interested to see how he handles the weight class bump but if anyone can do it, Jesse certainly can!   Starting ranking 10ish?

149-Lubeck or Ruschell.  There is talk about Kalvin going down to this weight but I am very excited for Rylan or TJ given how strong they both looked at open tournaments. Only a few points seperated thesee two in matches against each other at 141.  Rylan beat and was very competitive with several national qualifiers so I wouldn't be surprised if whomever starts here qualifies next year!

157-I. Jordan; given his spectacular RS year, has fans EXTREMLY excited for the future.  Beat several national qualifiers and I don't see any reason he isn't highly ranked and considered a candidate to AA as a freshman.  With Thielke, appears to be the face of the Badgers for years to come. 

165-Cousins- This will be his 3rd year as the starter.  Let's hope he has a strong summer of work as he has shown flashes in the past.  Will be exciting to see him pushed by Koethe or Kalvin as well.

174-Liegel-I'm excited for Scott's Senior year as he showed flashes at the Cliff Keen and the Midlands and barely missed qualifying. Wrestled AA Logan Storely extremely tough and I wouldn't be shocked if he made a huge improvement a la Jackson Hein from this year to next.  I think he will start out the year ranked #15th or so.

184-Icky or Genrich- Kind of a wild card weight given Dylans injury and Keegans redshirt.  Will be interesting to see how this weight plays out.  We got zero points at B1G and several tournaments so I see a major improvement in that category.

197-Hein-phenomenal improvement from last year to this.  Let's hope the trend continues and he has a great Senior year.  Would expect him to start the year ranked #12th or so given his finish and make a strong push to AA with a summer working with Trevor.

HWT-Medberry- Fantastic freshman year culminating in being named B1G freshman of the year.  Wrestling in a STACKED weight class and I would think he would start out ranked 8th or so with him finishing higher!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Chedd on March 24, 2013, 10:04:06 AM
Nice summary of each weight.

I think the team has a legit shot at 8 qualifiers and either 4 or 5 AAs.

That would have equated to finishing in the 7-8 range as a team.
Oregon State, with 7 qualifiers and 3 AAs finished 8th.
Missouri, with 10 qualifiers and 5 AAs, finished 7th.


You really don't score points at nationals unless you AA. Nick Hucke won two matches and only scored 1 team point for Mizzou. Hein and Medberry only scored one a piece with their wins. Not the best determination of overall team strength.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: billymurphy on March 24, 2013, 01:07:17 PM
Penn State with 5 in the finals and Minnesota with 8 All Americans.  Very hard to compete with that.  I watched the Dapper Dan Classic and the Michigan recruits were very impressive so their future looks bright. 
Dieringer alone scored more points than Wisconsin.  Having studs like Graff are the only way to rack up significant points at nationals. Next years team should have some good seniors and hopefully the team depth will never be what it has been the past two years.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 24, 2013, 01:39:18 PM
good work Bucky Matt! Here are my questions and commends:
Will Tyler be able to stay at 33?
With 7 or 8 of the top 20 gone from 25 plus guys moving up will Ryan Taylor crack the top 20 (#17 is my guess) soon into the season
41 looks to be stacked national again next season so Jess may start out 12 and then I see him finishing in the top 6, top three would be great
49 has about half the top 20 going so that is promising
57 has like 7-10 guys graduating so we need to make the most of
65 have 5 or so, I don't think Cousins will start out in the top 20 but I think he can end up some where between 15 and 20
74 is loaded again next year but Icky showed a lot of promise
84 has about half the top 20 graduating so there is opportunity
97 has 8 or 9 graduating but i think a couple are coming up from 84 and i would say Jackson start out 12-15
Connor should start out ranked between 5-8.

Should be a funny season. 
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: DocWrestling on March 24, 2013, 04:52:02 PM
Will more guys move up with more confidence seeing Dake, Ruth, and Wright all win titles again after moving up a weight class
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: mkm13 on March 24, 2013, 07:05:43 PM
Another big thing about next year is we won't be crippled by an injury like we were this year due to our lack of depth.  Even with an injury, we should have a guy at most weights that could step in and be competitive.  The only weights we are still thin is 174/184.  Hopefully Gennrich will be big enough by next year to be competitive at that weight.  Can Cox get big enough where he can be more competitive if need be?

Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: FinalWord on March 24, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
I'm sure everything will be just great with next years team as long as we still have Barry ::)
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: badgerguy on March 25, 2013, 09:25:13 AM
Nice summary.  From listening to the Tom Ryan interview during the NCAA finals he made it sound like several of his guys will move up.  Would not be surprised if the Steibers were two of them....Would Ramos follow??  Not that Ramos couldn't make 33, but there is a pretty good battle going on between those two.  If so, Graff would be in really nice shape to finish his career off with a national title.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: npope on March 25, 2013, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: badgerguy on March 25, 2013, 09:25:13 AM
Nice summary.  From listening to the Tom Ryan interview during the NCAA finals he made it sound like several of his guys will move up.  Would not be surprised if the Steibers were two of them....Would Ramos follow??  Not that Ramos couldn't make 33, but there is a pretty good battle going on between those two.  If so, Graff would be in really nice shape to finish his career off with a national title.

If the character of the battle that Ramos and Stieber are having suggests that they are closely competitive then how might you characterize the competitive nature of the Graff-Ramos matches? The recent scores have approximated each other, OT matches, etc. If Ramos and Stieber have something going on then so to do Graff-Ramos. And if Ramos is close to Stieber then might one also think that Graff is comparably close?

My point is that no one gives Graff his due. He is right there with Ramos (and maybe Stieber - we just don't know until they wrestle). While I understand guys on the national forum missing the point, I don't see how "locals" can over look how close Graff is. This is not to say that I think he should be interjected into that conversation at the national level (he has to beat one of those two before anyone should have those expectations), but give Graff his due locally; he doesn't need good guys vacating his weight in order to challenge for a title - he's there already.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: badgerguy on March 25, 2013, 10:32:53 AM
Im not at all saying Graff isn't right there with them, at least Ramos.  I think Graff is a great wrestler and I am glad he is on the team.  I would enjoy seeing these three battle it out again next year.  But from watching a few flowrestling interviews (can't link them now as I am at work) it just seems like Ramos really really works and wants to beat Steiber.  There is a rivalry going on there, and everyone knows it.  All im saying is if Steiber goes up I would not be surprised if Ramos follows.

As far as the competitive nature of Graff-Ramos, I would characterize it as a great rivalry.  Two very close competitors.  One rivalry which could go either way any given match.  Again, just from watching interviews, I don't think Ramos gives a rip about the Graff-Ramos matches as much as he cares and is dedicated to beating Steiber.  He doesn't have many opportunities left.  See the pre match finals interview on ESPN.  Makes me think he actually thinks he is that much better then Graff is..which isn't true.  The guy needs an attitude adjustment, but that's just my opinion.

This has nothing to do with me giving Graff his due.  He is outstanding and I was cheering and as excited as anyone was Friday night during the semi finals.  I know he is right there..but other teams are going to be making moves that are best for their team.  Just one of these moves could mean the top two guys at 33 move up. 
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: blastdouble on March 25, 2013, 11:13:15 AM
Highly doubt Ramos moves up next year.  I think he is a 133 lifer.  He could've made 25 in needed.  Not big enough for 41.  Look forward to more Ramos-Graff next year if Graff stays at 133.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Musky Hunter on March 25, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
love the optimism.  i am a firm believer ryan will make waves in his first year at 125.  keep the injury bug away from the team and i hope they can finish in the top half of the big ten.  i think we should have a wait and see approach before getting to excited. 
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 25, 2013, 01:23:15 PM
Here are my projected preseason rankings -

125 # 20 Ryan Taylor (Could move up quickly after some early season wins)
133 # 2 Graff (I think Stieber moves up to 141)
141 # 16 Thielke (Will go up when he shows he handles the weight jump)
157 # 10 Jordan (Isaac beat some ranked wrestlers at the Midlands)
174 # 20 Liegel (Was ranked between 20 - 30 most of this season and showed tremendous improvement)
197 # 10 Hein (9 Seniors were ranked ahead of him at the end of the season)
285 # 5 Medbery (Top 6 Ranked wrestlers might all be from the Big 10)

We will need to prove ourselves at 149, 165, and 184 before we can get ranked.  The battles between Kelliher, Ruschell, Lubeck, York, Cousins, Yde, Koethe, Gennrich, Iczkowski for varsity spots will be interesting.  Also - Will Lubeck challenge Thielke? What weight will Matt Kelliher go? Will let Robertson compete for a varsity spot as a freshmen? Also, I wonder if they move some guys up a weight, like York, Cousins, and Liegel?  They would have to get on the Bugenhagen weight training program to do that !!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 25, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
Plus we have guys like Cox, McCall, Hines, Weber that could push guys seem to be headed in a good direction. The key now is solid recruiting behind this class.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 25, 2013, 04:46:23 PM
McCall and Tobin could compete well at 197 and 285 at the Big Ten and possibly NCAA level if and when called upon.

Tobin did make it to the round of 24 last year at the NCAA's.  McCall lost to Hein in OT in the wrestleoff, so we have not heard the last of Timmy McCall, I am quite sure of that.

Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 25, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
forgot about Tobin. I was thinking he is a senior this year but I see RS JR on roster.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: billymurphy on March 25, 2013, 06:47:17 PM
jordan Oliver also bumped up in weight and won a national title.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 29, 2013, 08:44:25 AM
2013 - 2014 Projected Roster:

125 - Taylor, Cavallaris, Heitpas
133 - Graff, Kelliher, Crone
141 - Thielke, Glenn, Lubeck
149 - York, Ruschell, Bloom, Moe
157 - Jordan, Yde, Cathery, Justin Weber
165 - Cousins, Cox, Koethe, Seth Leigel
174 - Scott Leigel, Hochstaetter, Stilling
184 - Iczkowski, Gennrich, Veling, Robertson
197 - Hein, McCall, Brandon Weber, Hines
285 - Medbery, Tobin, Horwath
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Gutwrench on March 29, 2013, 09:25:30 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 29, 2013, 08:44:25 AM
2013 - 2014 Projected Roster:

125 - Taylor, Cavallaris, Heitpas
133 - Graff, Kelliher, Crone
141 - Thielke, Glenn, Lubeck
149 - York, Ruschell, Bloom, Moe
157 - Jordan, Yde, Cathery, Justin Weber
165 - Cousins, Cox, Koethe, Seth Leigel
174 - Scott Leigel, Hochstaetter, Stilling
184 - Iczkowski, Gennrich, Veling, Robertson
197 - Hein, McCall, Brandon Weber
285 - Medbery, Tobin, Horwath

I am looking forward to seeing these guys compete next year.  There is going to be a lot of positive things to talk about, both as a team and individually.

Go Badgers!!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: npope on March 29, 2013, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 29, 2013, 08:44:25 AM
2013 - 2014 Projected Roster:

125 - Taylor, Cavallaris, Heitpas
133 - Graff, Kelliher, Crone
141 - Thielke, Glenn, Lubeck
149 - York, Ruschell, Bloom, Moe
157 - Jordan, Yde, Cathery, Justin Weber
165 - Cousins, Cox, Koethe, Seth Leigel
174 - Scott Leigel, Hochstaetter, Stilling
184 - Iczkowski, Gennrich, Veling, Robertson
197 - Hein, McCall, Brandon Weber
285 - Medbery, Tobin, Horwath

Of course, this is assuming that all hands are on deck next year. In all likelihood there will be some attrition. Additionally, I am under the impression that the Badgers are only allowed to have 33 wrestlers on the team. Last, I see that Hines from Ellsworth is missing from the list - do you know something that the rest of us don't?
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 29, 2013, 10:40:39 AM
I forgot Parker Hines - added him to the list at 197.

Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: hammen on March 29, 2013, 11:47:24 AM
I believe it's still 30 for the roster limit, unless things changed in the past 2-3 years.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 29, 2013, 11:55:52 AM
Barry was talking about 32 in a few interviews this year as I recall.

I wonder if Ryne Cokeley will be on the roster ?
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: hammen on March 29, 2013, 12:04:55 PM
That would be great if it went up! I think 30 was set for a while during our Title IX probation.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: digimon on March 29, 2013, 12:23:35 PM
The Badgers will be better in 2013-14 plain and simple if they stay healthy. But, better in the Big 10 only means that the Badgers will have their hands full with the likes of Penn State, Minnesota, Iowa, and Ohio State. Michigan will be a much improved team in 2013-24, and I'm not sure what Illinois will bring to the Big 10 mat next season. Who will the Badgers wrestling next season in the Big 10 ? I know they don't wrestle everyone.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on March 29, 2013, 04:56:42 PM
Schedule was not released until May 24th last year. Maybe there is a formula but I don't know it. I am excited about next year. It will be tough in the Big Ten but there should be some more AA next year. What does everyone expect next year in the Big Ten; NCAA; and AA's?
I think they can get to 5th or 6th in the Big Ten; top 14 in NCAA (it would be great to get to the top 10); and 2-4 AA's.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: hammen on March 29, 2013, 09:24:46 PM
Really pumped for this crop of new freshmen and for this year's redshirts to start tearing it up!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on April 02, 2013, 05:37:57 PM
wonder who they are starting to recruit for 2014? I am guessing they are done for 2013
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: BuckyMatt on April 02, 2013, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: dad 2 5 on April 02, 2013, 05:37:57 PM
wonder who they are starting to recruit for 2014? I am guessing they are done for 2013
Would love to know the answer to that as well. IMO the 2014 class is imperative to continuing the climb to the top. They graduate Graff, York, Liegel and Hein and should be coming off a very successful 2013 season. It's imperative they have a bumper crop of recruits to reload keep the momentum.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: mkm13 on April 02, 2013, 07:18:37 PM
We will lose Tobin as well, who provides good depth and talent in the room.  

I would think we would go after Sharebrock and Lantz from WI hard, and focus on trying to bring in a few highly ranked upper weight guys from out of state.  

It would also be nice to see us bring in Micah Jordan as well, but I am not sure if we would have a chance with him after Bo went to OSU.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: billymurphy on April 02, 2013, 10:09:56 PM
Lantz has actually struggled on the national scene the last few years. He is a good mat wrestler.  These top WI guys really need to prove themselves on the national level this summer.  There are a couple of true blue chip recruits in Illinois that would be nice to get.  To replace Graff WI is going to have to go out of state.  Wish list:

1.   Jered Cortez   Glenbard North   IL   Junior
2.   Micah Jordan   St. Paris Graham   OH   Junior
3.   Mark Hall   Apple Valley   MN   Freshman
4.   Lance Benick   Totino Grace   MN   Sophomore   
5.   Sam Stoll   Kasson-Mantorville   MN   Junior
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Scourge on April 04, 2013, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: billymurphy on April 02, 2013, 10:09:56 PM
Lantz has actually struggled on the national scene the last few years. He is a good mat wrestler.  These top WI guys really need to prove themselves on the national level this summer.  There are a couple of true blue chip recruits in Illinois that would be nice to get.  To replace Graff WI is going to have to go out of state.  Wish list:

1.   Jered Cortez   Glenbard North   IL   Junior
2.   Micah Jordan   St. Paris Graham   OH   Junior
3.   Mark Hall   Apple Valley   MN   Freshman
4.   Lance Benick   Totino Grace   MN   Sophomore   
5.   Sam Stoll   Kasson-Mantorville   MN   Junior

Yeah, I'd say he'd be topping any long term wish list there is out there, and the AV connection helps.

Jordan is obvious.  Breske is another Freshmen that I think you have to try and lock up early, though if he's a big Greco guy, he may cross the river to wrestle.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on April 29, 2013, 01:18:49 PM
Updated Projected Roster ...

125 - Taylor, Cavallaris
133 - Graff, Kelliher, Crone
141 - Thielke, Glenn, Lubeck
149 - York, Ruschell, Moe
157 - Jordan, Yde, Cathery, Justin Weber
165 - Cousins, Cox, Koethe, Seth Leigel
174 - Scott Liegel, Hochstaetter, Stilling
184 - Iczkowski, Gennrich, Veling, Robertson
197 - Hein, McCall, Brandon Weber, Hines
285 - Medbery, Tobin, Horwath
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: npope on April 29, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on April 29, 2013, 01:18:49 PM
Updated Projected Roster ...

125 - Taylor, Cavallaris
133 - Graff, Kelliher, Crone
141 - Thielke, Glenn, Lubeck
149 - York, Ruschell, Moe
157 - Jordan, Yde, Cathery, Justin Weber
165 - Cousins, Cox, Koethe, Seth Leigel
174 - Scott Liegel, Hochstaetter, Stilling
184 - Iczkowski, Gennrich, Veling, Robertson
197 - Hein, McCall, Brandon Weber, Hines
285 - Medbery, Tobin, Horwath

That almost passes for having some depth! Of course, just projections at this point and the Badgers will likely lose at least a couple. And too, the allowable number in the room is only 30 (or is it 33?). That means that at least a couple of names won't be on the mat next fall.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Drivingforce on April 29, 2013, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: npope on April 29, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on April 29, 2013, 01:18:49 PM
Updated Projected Roster ...

125 - Taylor, Cavallaris
133 - Graff, Kelliher, Crone
141 - Thielke, Glenn, Lubeck
149 - York, Ruschell, Moe
157 - Jordan, Yde, Cathery, Justin Weber
165 - Cousins, Cox, Koethe, Seth Leigel
174 - Scott Liegel, Hochstaetter, Stilling
184 - Iczkowski, Gennrich, Veling, Robertson
197 - Hein, McCall, Brandon Weber, Hines
285 - Medbery, Tobin, Horwath

That almost passes for having some depth! Of course, just projections at this point and the Badgers will likely lose at least a couple. And too, the allowable number in the room is only 30 (or is it 33?). That means that at least a couple of names won't be on the mat next fall.
I'm not "in the know' like some of you but...I don't see any way Lubeck gets down to 141. 149 if he doesn't have any growth spurt.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on April 29, 2013, 05:03:51 PM
I would thing Crone, Robinson and Seth will redshirt. I agree will looks like we are building depth and that the 13-14 class it critical to growing the program!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Briopiate on April 30, 2013, 08:22:38 AM
Quote from: Drivingforce on April 29, 2013, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: npope on April 29, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on April 29, 2013, 01:18:49 PM
Updated Projected Roster ...

125 - Taylor, Cavallaris
133 - Graff, Kelliher, Crone
141 - Thielke, Glenn, Lubeck
149 - York, Ruschell, Moe
157 - Jordan, Yde, Cathery, Justin Weber
165 - Cousins, Cox, Koethe, Seth Leigel
174 - Scott Liegel, Hochstaetter, Stilling
184 - Iczkowski, Gennrich, Veling, Robertson
197 - Hein, McCall, Brandon Weber, Hines
285 - Medbery, Tobin, Horwath

That almost passes for having some depth! Of course, just projections at this point and the Badgers will likely lose at least a couple. And too, the allowable number in the room is only 30 (or is it 33?). That means that at least a couple of names won't be on the mat next fall.
I'm not "in the know' like some of you but...I don't see any way Lubeck gets down to 141. 149 if he doesn't have any growth spurt.

I hope the Badgers have learned from last year (and guys like Dake and Oliver...) that drastic weight cuts are not needed to help the team. I wonder how York and Lubeck match up? I would think having Lubeck in there at 149 would provide the most upside...provided he can beat Ruschell...
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: badgerjohn on April 30, 2013, 08:40:32 AM
Lubeck wrestled 141 at the opens he went to this past season.  Ruschell was 141 beginning of the season and moved up to 149 mid season.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: billymurphy on April 30, 2013, 11:15:32 AM
I see no reason why we would not have a lubeck vs. Thielke wrestle off at 141 lbs next season unless Lubeck already has made the decision to wrestle off Ruschell at 149 lbs and secure a varsity spot.  Lubeck and Ruschell have wrestled close matches, where as one would have to believe Theilke would be a big favorite once he becomes a true 141 lbs guy.  Taylor is a favorite at 125 obviously as that  was a huge hole last season.  I read in the newspaper where undefeated state champion Peissig is considering walking on next year.  He might have a fighting chance for varsity at 184 next season if he decides to do it. Roberson is the blue chip recruit at 184/197.  There will likely be a lot of seniors in the lineup next year so that sure should mean that the team will be very good next year which also means a bunch of scholarship money will be freed up so a very good recruiting class should be possible with Coach Brandvold continuing to pull blue chips out of Illinois as well as the top WI guys.  Having a coach who is a good recruiter is pivotal to success.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Harris on April 30, 2013, 09:24:46 PM
Would love to see Peissig walk on.  He is a great young man.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: jaguarwrestler on May 02, 2013, 09:14:02 AM
Personally, I believe Lubeck would go 149, I think he would be the starter.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: canvasback on May 02, 2013, 12:39:05 PM
The Badgers should, barring injuries, be very good.  A possible 3rd place behind Penn St. and Minn.!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: MNbadger on May 03, 2013, 11:02:11 AM
"I hope the Badgers have learned from last year (and guys like Dake and Oliver...) that drastic weight cuts are not needed to help the team."

This is true IF you have a "Dake" or "Oliver".  These are rare birds and most can't do what they do, hence cutting weight.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: cubfan on May 03, 2013, 04:44:32 PM
Baby steps Canvas Back.  ;)
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: billymurphy on May 03, 2013, 10:04:12 PM
I think the Iowa fans would have a pretty good belly laugh if they heard that WI fans think we will finish ahead of them this coming year.  Keep in mind that we finished behind them in all 10 weights this past season.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: boowrestle on May 04, 2013, 06:57:57 PM
 ;) Let them laugh!!!!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Barou on May 04, 2013, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: billymurphy on May 03, 2013, 10:04:12 PM
I think the Iowa fans would have a pretty good belly laugh if they heard that WI fans think we will finish ahead of them this coming year.  Keep in mind that we finished behind them in all 10 weights this past season.

If we don't beat them this year I'm sure we will next year. And if not next year, the year after. We always have next year.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: cubfan on May 05, 2013, 10:03:43 AM
If we don't beat them this year I'm sure we will next year. And if not next year, the year after. We always have next year.


I know that feeling ohhh to well.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Ghetto on May 05, 2013, 11:26:59 AM
Quote from: cubfan on May 05, 2013, 10:03:43 AM
If we don't beat them this year I'm sure we will next year. And if not next year, the year after. We always have next year.


I know that feeling ohhh to well.
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Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: badgerjohn on May 07, 2013, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: futurerichguy on May 07, 2013, 08:51:09 AM
Quote from: cubfan on May 05, 2013, 10:03:43 AM
If we don't beat them this year I'm sure we will next year. And if not next year, the year after. We always have next year.


I know that feeling ohhh to well.
The Badgers are the Cubs of collegiate wrestling.  Great.

CUBS WIN!  CUBS WIN!  CUBS WIN!  I can here Harry in my sleep!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on May 07, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
Lets say the Badgers finish this way at the Big 10's next year
125 - 4th
133 - 2nd
141 - 3rd
149 - 6th
157 - 6th
165 - 10th
174 - 10th
184 - 6th
197 - 5th
hwy - 5th (Coon could be FOY for MI)
That would put Wisconsin battling for 5,6,7 with IL and MI and get 8 to the NCAA where I could see them:
125 - 13th
133 - 2nd
141 - 10th
149 - 11th
157 - 14th
184 - 11th
197 - 12th
hwy - 6th
which would give them a pretty good finish at NCAA
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: billymurphy on May 08, 2013, 09:12:21 AM
Jordan, I was going to make that same exact comment.  Coon got totally manhandled.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on May 08, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
I agree that I am not sold on Coon in freestyle and I think Connor can beat him but I think he needs some motivation. Connor had a good freshmen year and I hope for a better SO year. The freshmen of the year could be one of the best battles in years. Jordon, Bo Jordon, Jesse, plus guys from MN, PSU, and IL that could make an impact.
But lets think team right now and a jump up again.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: stp on May 10, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
Flashback Friday!  

St Paris Graham Sophomore Ryan Taylor vs Blair Academy Soph. Max Hvolbek.  Taylor was still relatively unknown after not making the HS varsity line-up his Freshman year.  

http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/236398-Blair-Academy-vs-St-Paris-Graham/video/284474-103lbs-Max-Hvolbek-Blair-vs-Ryan-Taylor-St-Paris-Graham- (http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/236398-Blair-Academy-vs-St-Paris-Graham/video/284474-103lbs-Max-Hvolbek-Blair-vs-Ryan-Taylor-St-Paris-Graham-)




;)

Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Harris on May 10, 2013, 07:34:29 PM
stp that is an awesome video!!  That kid is tough.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on May 11, 2013, 10:00:46 AM
Quote from: stp on May 10, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
Flashback Friday!  

St Paris Graham Sophomore Ryan Taylor vs Blair Academy Soph. Max Hvolbek.  Taylor was still relatively unknown after not making the HS varsity line-up his Freshman year.  

http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/236398-Blair-Academy-vs-St-Paris-Graham/video/284474-103lbs-Max-Hvolbek-Blair-vs-Ryan-Taylor-St-Paris-Graham- (http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/236398-Blair-Academy-vs-St-Paris-Graham/video/284474-103lbs-Max-Hvolbek-Blair-vs-Ryan-Taylor-St-Paris-Graham-)



Who's the fella wearing a red shirt and glasses sitting next to Jimmy?

;)



Have to be excited to see Taylor next season along with the other young guys!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: wrestle03 on May 13, 2013, 08:15:06 AM
Ryan Taylor is a stud...........excited to see him next year.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Musky Hunter on May 14, 2013, 11:30:58 PM
Quote from: wrestle03 on May 13, 2013, 08:15:06 AM
Ryan Taylor is a stud...........excited to see him next year.

RT will produce.  Will be fun to watch his Badger career.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: wrestle03 on May 16, 2013, 10:31:38 AM
The kid has the talent to be a multiple time AA and national champ.  I'd love to see the in the room battles next year with him and Thielke making each other better.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Musky Hunter on May 16, 2013, 04:32:58 PM
Quote from: wrestle03 on May 16, 2013, 10:31:38 AM
The kid has the talent to be a multiple time AA and national champ.  I'd love to see the in the room battles next year with him and Thielke making each other better.

Yep, if healthy i think he will be. 
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: npope on May 16, 2013, 06:22:30 PM
Quote from: Musky Hunter on May 16, 2013, 04:32:58 PM

Yep, if healthy i think he will be. 

Is his ability to stay healthy a concern? If not, why even introduce that issue into the conversation?
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Musky Hunter on May 17, 2013, 09:58:41 AM
Quote from: npope on May 16, 2013, 06:22:30 PM
Quote from: Musky Hunter on May 16, 2013, 04:32:58 PM

Yep, if healthy i think he will be. 

Is his ability to stay healthy a concern? If not, why even introduce that issue into the conversation?

He is a friend of mine.  I say that about any athlete.  Staying healthy is the key to a top athletes success in my opinion. 
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: billymurphy on May 17, 2013, 11:41:10 AM
I have watched several of his matches and he is darn fun to watch.  He does not make it look super easy like Graff does, but uses pure heart and determination to win his matches. 
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Musky Hunter on May 17, 2013, 01:40:35 PM
Quote from: billymurphy on May 17, 2013, 11:41:10 AM
I have watched several of his matches and he is darn fun to watch.  He does not make it look super easy like Graff does, but uses pure heart and determination to win his matches. 

totally correct, and his gas tank never runs low. 
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Gutwrench on May 20, 2013, 08:13:39 AM
Quote from: Musky Hunter on May 17, 2013, 01:40:35 PM]

totally correct, and his gas tank never runs low. 

Funny, my wife says the same thing about me.....
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: CLC FAN on May 20, 2013, 10:23:03 AM
Her saying you are always full of gas is not the same thing...
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: bkraus on May 21, 2013, 07:56:39 AM
Quote from: CLC FAN on May 20, 2013, 10:23:03 AM
Her saying you are always full of gas is not the same thing...

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on May 21, 2013, 04:44:34 PM
Updated Projected Roster ...

125 - Taylor, Cavallaris
133 - Graff, Kelliher, Grahek
141 - Thielke, Glenn, Crone
149 - York, Lubeck, Ruschell, Moe
157 - Jordan, Yde, Cathery, Justin Weber
165 - Cousins, Cox, Koethe, Seth Liegel
174 - Scott Liegel, Hochstaetter, Veling, Stilling
184 - Iczkowski, Gennrich, Robertson, Peissig
197 - Hein, McCall, Brandon Weber, Hines
285 - Medbery, Tobin, Horwath
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on July 25, 2013, 04:41:21 PM
I was not able to get out Monday. What was the talk about next year's team?
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on July 26, 2013, 09:14:05 AM
The practice before the dinner was interesting - they should do that every year - a great chance to see a Division I Practice.  Among the participants were Timmy McCall, Cole Tobin, Connor Medbery, Ricky Robertson, Scott Liegel, Frank Cousins, Isaac Jordan, Kalvin York, Rylan Lubeck, and Matt Cavallaris (There were quite a few others - someone else might be able to say who else was wrestling)
I was impressed - I do think there is as much solid depth on the team as I can remember.  I think it would be great to have more practices like that, not necessarily outside, but open to the public.

After the dinner, Barry's talked about Jesse Thielke's and Tyler Graff's accomplishments on the international level to show where the program is at and talked quite a bit about Trevor and Kyle as Assistant Coaches and how much they bring to the program.  He thanked Barry Alvarez for his support of the program and how great it is to have recruits meet Barry A. in his office on recruiting trips.    After that, Barry introduced Mitch Hull.

About 250 people were there, more than twice as many as the last two years.  In general, I think people were pretty pumped about the team's chances.  It was one heck of an event.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: woody53 on July 26, 2013, 10:08:12 AM
Very enjoyable night. The practice before was fun to watch. Great to see friends in the sport in the middle of summer. With my work schedule, that does not happen to often so this was an evening I will look forward to again next year.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on July 30, 2013, 04:53:53 PM
how is Jackson doing on his weight? is everyone healthy again?
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: BOURNE on July 31, 2013, 09:27:49 AM
Any truth to the rumor that Jarod Donar is leaving the Gophers and heading east?
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on July 31, 2013, 04:30:09 PM
last I talked with Barry it sound like he was. Should add to the room. I think there was a bunch flying around on one of the trends on this a while ago.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: badgerjohn on July 31, 2013, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: BOURNE on July 31, 2013, 09:27:49 AM
Any truth to the rumor that Jarod Donar is leaving the Gophers and heading east?

yes, more than rumor  :)

Welcome home Jarod
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on August 09, 2013, 01:41:59 PM
it would be good to see the roster up on the web site. Hopefully soon.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: mkm13 on August 11, 2013, 08:10:08 PM
It sounds like Koethe is transfering to Grandview. Hope UW can use that extra scholarship $ to get another good wrestler in the next recruiting class.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: bigoil on August 11, 2013, 09:48:36 PM
That stinks!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: billymurphy on August 11, 2013, 10:29:42 PM
Did Koethe have a decent chance at varsity this year?  Why did he leave?
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: cubfan on August 12, 2013, 07:48:02 AM
Not this season.  Was reading on the Iowa forum that someone ran into him and Cooper, Iowa's new 149 lber and they said Justin looked about 200 lbs.  That's too bad.  Best of luck to him at Grandview.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on August 12, 2013, 06:38:15 PM
I think he would have been in the mix and would have helped with depth. Seemed like a good guy. Grandview will be stack for another run at the NAIA title and maybe four in a row now.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on August 26, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Less then 75 days until the first match!
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: Gutwrench on August 27, 2013, 10:18:43 AM
What sort of timeline are we looking at until we can start to hear some new updates?  When does practice start? 
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: BOURNE on August 27, 2013, 10:27:22 AM
I heard that practice starts in about 2 weeks.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: dad 2 5 on August 27, 2013, 05:25:53 PM
i don't think practice can officially start until the second week of October.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: hammen on August 27, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Open mats / club workouts usually begin 2nd week of Sept. Most guys are always in the room on their own around the same time right now anyway.
Title: Re: 2013-14 team
Post by: cubfan on August 28, 2013, 08:08:53 AM
I take it this is something that Mitch H. might be running.  Is Ben J. still around and could help out with the club?