With us not doing much in FA the top three or 4 picks need to contribute a little faster..Reading some mocks already out for today's second round.. some have us taking Montee Ball, One has us taking John Jenkins Who would you guys like to see? I wonder if Green Bay feels that McMillan and and Richardson will step up at safety? Or will they take a safety in the next two rounds.. I would like a RB that can play all 3 downs if need be..
Green Bay - Day 2 was a busy one for Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson last season. And in cornerback Casey Hayward, he may have a future Pro Bowler.
Can Thompson find another instant contributor on Day 2 this year? Several potential reinforcements are on the board. Here's a quick look at some prospects who could slip to the Packers:
Terron Armstead, T (Ark.-Pine Bluff)
The Packers need help on the offensive line. It doesn't matter that the team took Derek Sherrod and Bryan Bulaga in the first round of back-to-back years. Armstead didn't face the competition of other tackles remaining on the board, but he's easily the most athletic. His time of 4.71 seconds in the 40-yard dash set a NFL scouting combine record. And in searching for a tackle, the Packers will need someone with a kick of nastiness.
Armstead is the case-in-point, boom-or-bust prospect. But his offensive line coach Damon Nivens believes Armstead will make it in the pros because of his approach. That athleticism has a little something extra.
"Off the field you can return back to yourself," Arkansas-Pine Bluff offensive line coach Damon Nivens remembers telling Armstead. "But you have to realize you're the baddest guy to ever lace up these shoes at this position. That's how you have to attack it. He believed in that and took off with it. . . . He's got that on-and-off switch. Off the field, he's a well-respected kid. On the field, he hits that button and he turns into a guy who's a real, real nasty football player."
Montee Ball, RB (Wisconsin)
No need for an introduction here. Ball was a one-man, record-breaking machine at Wisconsin. The question scouts have here is how should Ball's 924 career carries be viewed? Was his heavy workload a clear sign of durability, of a future No. 1 back? Or will the mileage scare teams off?
Green Bay would probably need to slide up the second round - something Thompson did last year - to grab Alabama's Eddie Lacy, but Ball and UCLA's Johnathan Franklin could be options. The question is how Thompson views Ball.
"Is he going to be a Pro Bowl-caliber starter that you'll want to change your offense for? No," one NFC scout said. "But he's going to give you everything he's got in pass protection. He's going to make great decisions running the ball. He's going to run with power when he has to run with power. He'll run outside. He'll do everything you want him to do when you want him to do it. He just won't do it in a way that makes you go, 'Ooh!'"
J.J. Wilcox, S (Georgia Southern)
The former college slot receiver and running back was a hit at safety last year, molding into a true pro prospect. The Packers saw San Francisco jump up to the 18th pick and take LSU's athletic playmaker, Eric Reid, but they can still find a player to compete with M.D. Jennings and Jerron McMillian in training camp.
Wilcox may need more time to develop. But his size (6-0, 216) blended with the ball skills will be intriguing to Green Bay. Morgan Burnett can handle the communication on the back end. The Packers need a rangy complement who can make plays.
If Thompson wants to think outside the box, Wilcox could pay off.
"I have a knack for getting to the football. I'm a tough, hard-nosed player," he said. "Every play I'm out there, I'm full throttle, full speed. I'm not going to take a play off. That's my mind-set. And that's going to separate me from a lot of guys."
Stedman Bailey, WR (West Virginia)
It may be time for Thompson to strike at wide receiver again. Randall Cobb is the only wideout he has drafted in the last four years. With Greg Jennings gone, don't be surprised if the Packers boss mines for a receiver. Bailey makes sense. He's a shade short for the position at 5 feet, 10 inches tall. Not a burner, not physically imposing by any means, Bailey is a crafty route runner and was wildly productive in West Virginia's wide-open offense. If the Packers want to give Aaron Rodgers another weapon, he could be a possibility.
"I think to model my game after Steve Smith," Bailey said. "He's a receiver that's not the tallest guy in the game, but that doesn't let him affect how he plays. He definitely plays like he's got a dog in him, and that's how I play. I don't care if anybody's taller than me. I just go out and play my game."
I am hoping there is a nice QB run and one of the big DTs falls to us. Would also love to see the wr Woods drop think he could be a nice addition or maybe Ertz although I would just as soon wait for the te from Cincy i the 3rd.
I like this guy in the second....
Johnathan Franklin is drawing comparisons to Frank Gore and Doug Martin as a three-down back with NFL-ready pass-protection skills and the physicality to succeed between the tackles at the NFL level.
Highly productive last season at UCLA, Franklin piled up 1,734 rushing yards and 15 total touchdowns while adding 33 catches for 323 yards. He's a more complete back than Lacy
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000162194/article/draft-buzz-johnathan-franklin-gaining-on-eddie-lacy
would be nice to see them trade up and grab either Lacy OR Ball... :)
Quote from: maggie on April 26, 2013, 07:48:50 AM
would be nice to see them trade up and grab either Lacy OR Ball... :)
Franklin will be a better pro.... and he is faster than the other two... ;) I have to say though I really like Montee Ball as a person and player...
Quote from: The Last Ride on April 26, 2013, 07:51:21 AM
Quote from: maggie on April 26, 2013, 07:48:50 AM
would be nice to see them trade up and grab either Lacy OR Ball... :)
Franklin will be a better pro.... and he is faster than the other two... ;) I have to say though I really like Montee Ball as a person and player...
I like Franklin also, Hoping he lasts to the 3rd round. He is also a top notch charachter guy. He hopes to be the Mayor of LA someday.
I like Melenik, the T from Fla.St. if he falls to us in the 2nd rd.,
J.J. Wilcox in the 3rd.,
I like the TE Gavin Escobar from San Diego State.
Cyprien, the S from Fla International, but I think he will be gone before we pick in the 2nd.
a list of best available for 2-3 rounds (not mine)
14. Tank Carradine | 6'4, 276 pounds | Defensive end | Florida State
18. Arthur Brown | 6'0, 241 pounds | Middle linebacker | Kansas State
19. Keenan Allen | 6'2, 206 pounds | Wide receiver | California *
20. Geno Smith | 6'2, 218 pounds | Quarterback | West Virginia
23. Jonathan Cyprien | 6'0, 210 pounds | Safety | Florida International
26. D.J. Swearinger | 6'0, 212 pounds | Safety | South Carolina
29. Johnathan Hankins | 6'2, 320 pounds | Defensive tackle | Ohio State
31. Jesse Williams | 6'3, 323 pounds | Defensive tackle | Alabama
33. Larry Warford | 6'3, 332 pounds | Guard | Kentucky
34. Zach Ertz | 6'5, 250 pounds | Tight end | Stanford *
37. John Jenkins | 6'3, 346 pounds | Defensive tackle | Georgia
38. Damontre Moore | 6'4, 250 pounds | Defensive end | Texas A&M *
39. Jamie Collins | 6'3, 250 pounds | Outside linebacker | Southern Miss
40. Gavin Escobar | 6'5, 254 pounds | Tight end | San Diego State *
42. Manti Te'o | 6'1, 241 pounds | Middle linebacker | Notre Dame
43. Khaseem Greene | 6'0, 241 pounds | Outside linebacker | Rutgers
44. Eddie Lacy | 5'11, 231 pounds | Running back | Alabama *
45. Kawann Short | 6'2, 299 pounds | Defensive tackle | Purdue
46. Logan Ryan | 5'11, 190 pounds | Cornerback | Rutgers *
47. Johnthan Banks | 6'2, 185 pounds | Cornerback | Mississippi State
48. Robert Woods | 6'0, 200 pounds | Wide receiver | Southern California *
49. Sio Moore | 6'0, 245 pounds | Outside linebacker | Connecticut
50. Alex Okafor | 6'4, 264 pounds | Defensive end | Texas
51. Justin Hunter | 6'4, 196 pounds | Wide receiver | Tennessee *
52. Giovani Bernard | 5'8, 202 pounds | Running back | North Carolina **
53. Travis Kelce | 6'6, 255 pounds | Tight end | Cincinnati
54. Menelik Watson | 6'5, 310 pounds | Offensive tackle | Florida State *
55. Jamar Taylor | 5'10, 192 pounds | Cornerback | Boise State
56. Matt Barkley | 6'2, 227 pounds | Quarterback | Southern California
58. Marcus Lattimore | 5'11, 221 pounds | Running back | South Carolina *
59. Jordan Poyer | 5'11, 197 pounds | Cornerback | Oregon State
60. Quinton Patton | 6'0, 204 pounds | Wide receiver | Louisiana Tech
61. Blidi Wreh-Wilson | 6'0, 195 pounds | Cornerback | Connecticut
62. Kevin Minter | 5'11, 246 pounds | Middle linebacker | LSU *
63. Barrett Jones | 6'4, 305 pounds | Center | Alabama
64. Da'Rick Rogers | 6'2, 217 pounds | Wide receiver | Tennessee Tech *
66. Sam Montgomery | 6'3, 262 pounds | Defensive end | LSU *
67. Terron Armstead | 6'4, 306 pounds | Offensive tackle | Arkansas Pine-Bluff
68. Corey Lemonier | 6'3, 255 pounds | Defensive end | Auburn *
69. Stedman Bailey | 5'10, 193 pounds | Wide receiver | West Virginia *
70. Margus Hunt | 6'8, 277 pounds | Defensive end | SMU
71. Johnathan Franklin | 5'10, 205 pounds | Running back | UCLA
72. Shamarko Thomas | 5'10, 206 pounds | Safety | Syracuse
73. Aaron Dobson | 6'3, 210 pounds | Wide receiver | Marshall
74. Darius Slay | 6'0, 192 pounds | Cornerback | Mississippi State
75. Bennie Logan | 6'2, 309 pounds | Defensive tackle | LSU *
77. Mike Glennon | 6'7, 225 pounds | Quarterback | North Carolina State
78. William Gholston | 6'6, 281 pounds | Defensive end | Michigan State *
79. David Amerson | 6'1, 205 pounds | Cornerback | North Carolina State *
80. Brian Schwenke | 6'3, 314 pounds | Center | California
81. Brandon Jenkins | 6'2, 251 pounds | Outside linebacker | Florida State
82. Brandon Williams | 6'1, 335 pounds | Defensive tackle | Missouri Southern
83. Tyler Wilson | 6'2, 215 pounds | Quarterback | Arkansas
84. Robert Alford | 5'10, 188 pounds | Cornerback | Southeast Lousiana
85. Chase Thomas | 6'3, 240 pounds | Outside linebacker | Stanford
86. Joseph Randle | 6'0, 204 pounds | Running back | Oklahoma State *
87. Vance McDonald | 6'4, 260 pounds | Tight end | Rice
88. Dallas Thomas | 6'5, 306 pounds | Guard | Tennessee
89. Nico Johnson | 6'2, 248 pounds | Middle linebacker | Alabama
90. Tyler Bray | 6'6, 232 pounds | Quarterback | Tennessee *
91. Andre Ellington | 5'9, 199 pounds | Running back | Clemson
92. Oday Aboushi | 6'5, 308 pounds | Offensive tackle | Virginia
93. Christine Michael | 5'10, 220 pounds | Running back | Texas A&M
95. Dion Sims | 6'5, 276 pounds | Tight end | Michigan State *
96. Ryan Nassib | 6'2 227 pounds | Quarterback | Syracuse
97. Kiko Alonso | 6'3, 238 pounds | Middle linebacker | Oregon
98. Brian Winters | 6'4, 320 pounds | Guard/ Tackle | Kent State
100. Jordan Mills | 6'5, 316 pounds | Offensive tackle | Louisiana Tech
101. Jordan Reed | 6'2, 236 pounds | Tight end | Florida *
102. Terrance Williams | 6'2, 208 pounds | Wide receiver | Baylor
103. Zac Dysert | 6'3, 231 pounds | Quarterback | Miami (Ohio)
104. Jelani Jenkins | 6'0, 243 pounds | Outside linebacker | Florida *
105. Markus Wheaton | 5'11, 189 pounds | Wide receiver | Oregon State
106. Gerald Hodges | 6'1, 243 pounds | Outside linebacker | Penn State
107. Montee Ball | 5'10, 214 pounds | Running back | Wisconsin
108. Denard Robinson, 5'10, 199 pounds | Athlete | Michigan
My wish list for Rd 2 in roughly order of preference:
Eddie Lacey
Kennan Allen
Jonathon Cyprien
John Jenkins
Jesse Williams
Johnathan Hankins
Justin Hunter
D.J. Swearinger
Kevin Minter
Robert Woods
Kawann Short
Zach Ertz
Johnathan Franklin
Damontre Moore
Arthur Brown
Fingers crossed on a big QB run to push the rest down to GB......
I would like a load in the middle of the DL.
I think the Pack will wait and maybe take a flyer on a guy like Lattimore even though he might be a year away.
Also, I read that the Packers were very good during FA. The signed there guys and that is a huge deal.
Here is a mock draft of the second round that shows us taking Jesse Williams.. a lot of people like him..(littleguy), but man we would have a lot of DL... (RB or Safety this round)... maybe they want another big body and because there is word that Pickett and Raji showed up out of shape and overweight at the first offseason workouts...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/26/round-two-mock-draft/
Having a 3 man line it would be nice to possibly run an 8 man rotation of some nature. I would include Perry in the rotation with some formations. Raji, Pickett, Neal, Jolley, jones and I am drawing a blank on the others. Plus Pickett is starting to get up there in age and a nice long term replacement on the nose would be very nice.
Not sure if Jesse Williams is the guy or John Jenkins but those 2 are some horses to contend with in the middle.
Quote from: The Last Ride on April 26, 2013, 10:44:16 AM
Here is a mock draft of the second round that shows us taking Jesse Williams.. a lot of people like him..(littleguy), but man we would have a lot of DL... (RB or Safety this round)... maybe they want another big body and because there is word that Pickett and Raji showed up out of shape and overweight at the first offseason workouts...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/26/round-two-mock-draft/
We have a lot of DL but the only two solid ones and Pickett is getting old and both him and Ragi only have next year on their contract. The rest are pretty unknown, not overly productive, or have injury issues - and in some cases all of the above. I don't really feel comfortable relying on Neal, Worthy - who we know will miss a lot of the season, Jolly, etc. to carry the load at any point. Don't forget, the Packers gave up a ton of yards rushing at the end of last season so wasn't looking good either. I also think they need to find a way of resting Raji more, hence the idea of a big DT to stop the run and spell Raji.
I do think adding some punch to the offense will help. Particularly if they find consistent ways of moving the chains through an improved running game or short passing game (possession receiver like Wood or quality TE) to move the chains and rest the defense more by keeping drives alive - and force that cover 2 closer to the line of scrimmage/short middle of the field.
For me, BPA of the DT, RB, WR, S, LB. I think there is a lot of 1st round value in some of those DT, RB, WR yet
If Lattimore is still there in the third, I would like to see the Packers take a shot.
Markus Wheaton, WR, Ore. St. would be a good 3-4 round pick.
one of the two I believe will be a WR.
Jmo,dont think they are going RB anytime soon,if they really thought they needed one they would of taken Lacy in the 1st rd,i think they are contenr with a healthy Benson(and will be cheap).? for everybody,anybody else find it odd that 1st 6 picks last year and 1st this year are defense,maybe TT isnt as good as some give credit for.Packers would be so much better if they had a dependable RB that could consistantly carry the rock.(they are going to regret not taking Lacy in 1st rd!!!!!!JMO.
Quote from: boowrestle on April 26, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
Jmo,dont think they are going RB anytime soon,if they really thought they needed one they would of taken Lacy in the 1st rd,i think they are contenr with a healthy Benson(and will be cheap).? for everybody,anybody else find it odd that 1st 6 picks last year and 1st this year are defense,maybe TT isnt as good as some give credit for.Packers would be so much better if they had a dependable RB that could consistantly carry the rock.(they are going to regret not taking Lacy in 1st rd!!!!!!JMO.
Doesn't Lacey have some injury history to him? I wonder if after the last two years they're being more cautious about the injury thing. I also worry about drafting a running back who ran behind that simply incredible offensive line. Heard Bradshaw got cleared physically now, wonder if his name will pop up again.
It will be interesting to see how this group of
The packers have 7 picks (an extra 5th rd pick) I think. I would like to see them trade up and end up with 4 picks and get the guy they want. I really don
I like Brandon Williams in the 3rd.... wow small school but played well at the senior bowl against top talent. 6'3 335. NT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_y7aBGs97c
Quote from: The Last Ride on April 26, 2013, 03:43:13 PM
I like Brandon Williams in the 3rd.... wow small school but played well at the senior bowl against top talent. 6'3 335. NT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_y7aBGs97c
Small school means you have good scouts, find that kid that can be a pro bowler from a DII or DIII
Do you take a player with a past drug problem?
Quote from: Kjohnson on April 26, 2013, 05:14:49 PM
Do you take a player with a past drug problem?
That is a hard one for me because of the money spent on these kids.. but he could have no trouble in the past. then get a bunch of money and get into trouble after so nothing is for sure.. everyone deserves a chance... Honey Bear has tested positve about 10 times... not sure I would pick him..but a guy makes a mistake one time I would say yes..
Marijuana and alcohol are 2 drugs you as an employer have a handle on. Good or bad. I would have a problem with other drugs, Not saying that it
Wow!!!!
Lacey to the Pack late in the 2nd after getting another pick in a trade down. Could not envision a more perfect scenario for the 2nd round.
Quote from: DrSnide on April 26, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Wow!!!!
Lacey to the Pack late in the 2nd after getting another pick in a trade down. Could not envision a more perfect scenario for the 2nd round.
You like it? I'm not sold on Lacey.. may be wrong... could have had Montee or Franklin.. we will see... why did he drop so far?
Quote from: DrSnide on April 26, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Wow!!!!
Lacey to the Pack late in the 2nd after getting another pick in a trade down. Could not envision a more perfect scenario for the 2nd round.
Good thing they didn't spend a 1st round pick on him. I think I still would have liked Jonathon Franklin instead. Time will tell.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/26/eddie-lacy-surprisingly-tumbles/
injuries and might lack the passion to be an NFL running back... Hope they are wrong... wow..
Quote from: DrSnide on April 26, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Wow!!!!
Lacey to the Pack late in the 2nd after getting another pick in a trade down. Could not envision a more perfect scenario for the 2nd round.
If Ball would have been there (I think he went to Denver 3 picks earlier) does Ted take Monte?
Quote from: Todd on April 26, 2013, 10:38:28 PM
Quote from: DrSnide on April 26, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Wow!!!!
Lacey to the Pack late in the 2nd after getting another pick in a trade down. Could not envision a more perfect scenario for the 2nd round.
If Ball would have been there (I think he went to Denver 3 picks earlier) does Ted take Monte?
No, if Ball was the guy they wanted, they wouldn't have traded picks.
Quote from: Houndhead on April 26, 2013, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: Todd on April 26, 2013, 10:38:28 PM
Quote from: DrSnide on April 26, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Wow!!!!
Lacey to the Pack late in the 2nd after getting another pick in a trade down. Could not envision a more perfect scenario for the 2nd round.
If Ball would have been there (I think he went to Denver 3 picks earlier) does Ted take Monte?
No, if Ball was the guy they wanted, they wouldn't have traded picks.
Ah, he was available and they traded down? How many spots?
Lacy will become the next packer superstar... ;)... were all going to get sick of hearing his name real soon :)
Quote from: maggie on April 27, 2013, 05:41:08 AM
Lacy will become the next packer superstar... ;)... were all going to get sick of hearing his name real soon :)
Hope you are right maggie.. hope he comes in with a chip on his shoulder ..
Quote from: Todd on April 26, 2013, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: Houndhead on April 26, 2013, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: Todd on April 26, 2013, 10:38:28 PM
Quote from: DrSnide on April 26, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Wow!!!!
Lacey to the Pack late in the 2nd after getting another pick in a trade down. Could not envision a more perfect scenario for the 2nd round.
If Ball would have been there (I think he went to Denver 3 picks earlier) does Ted take Monte?
No, if Ball was the guy they wanted, they wouldn't have traded picks.
Ah, he was available and they traded down? How many spots?
I believe with the spot that Green Bay traded out of,,,,Ball was drafted there.
The Packers moved from 88 to 93 in a trade with the 49ers, and picked up a 5th round pick. After WR Steadman Baily was picked in front of them by the Rams at 92, they traded the 93 to Miami for the 109 pick in the 4th, and a 6th and 7th. I think I have the picks right, but I'm not 100%.
Our second round pick..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9NeqNEApgU
you can bet Ball was already packing for Seattle, :)......Elway had a problem with McGahee and was going to release him last week,...how long ya think Elway will put up with him now?...said the monkey when he got his tail caugh in the fan.. ;)
Quote from: maggie on April 27, 2013, 07:30:45 AM
you can bet Ball was already packing for Seattle, :)......Elway had a problem with McGahee and was going to release him last week,...how long ya think Elway will put up with him now?...said the monkey when he got his tail caugh in the fan.. ;)
I've gotten some good information from this thread. Unfortunately this was not one of them.
Whose monkey does what now?