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Title: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish - Joe Shinners
Post by: TomM on March 09, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish - Joe Shinners (3-9-2014) for Wisconsin Wrestling Online
http://www.wiwrestling.com/stories/shinners/2014/gMarch9_2014.htm
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish
Post by: leg turk on March 09, 2014, 09:41:32 PM
Hate to say it, but, if you can't get away on the bottom, it's pretty tough to win.
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish
Post by: lincolnlogs on March 10, 2014, 12:17:36 AM
Exactly right turk! Oh well, it was a great match. I have faith that Tyler will avenge this  loss!
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish
Post by: jeast on March 10, 2014, 07:30:00 AM
When will mat wrestling be important to this community?  (Read Wisconsin wrestling, high school and college)

Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish
Post by: jaguarwrestler on March 10, 2014, 09:03:20 AM
I can't stand Ramos, his do nothing and win ugly style makes me want to stick a fork in my eye. His stare down makes you think he is about to attack you... but then he just gets ready to block anything coming his way.

Personally I thought TG had an escape before riding time and I think he thought he had it a well. At the end of the day he was on his feet for 5 minutes the first 2 periods and didn't take hardly any shots. He should have opened up, nothing to lose this week.
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish
Post by: harley on March 10, 2014, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on March 10, 2014, 09:03:20 AM
I can't stand Ramos, his do nothing and win ugly style makes me want to stick a fork in my eye. His stare down makes you think he is about to attack you... but then he just gets ready to block anything coming his way.

Personally I thought TG had an escape before riding time and I think he thought he had it a well. At the end of the day he was on his feet for 5 minutes the first 2 periods and didn't take hardly any shots. He should have opened up, nothing to lose this week.

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Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish
Post by: neutral on March 10, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
Quote from: harley on March 10, 2014, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on March 10, 2014, 09:03:20 AM
I can't stand Ramos, his do nothing and win ugly style makes me want to stick a fork in my eye. His stare down makes you think he is about to attack you... but then he just gets ready to block anything coming his way.

Personally I thought TG had an escape before riding time and I think he thought he had it a well. At the end of the day he was on his feet for 5 minutes the first 2 periods and didn't take hardly any shots. He should have opened up, nothing to lose this week.

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... and the excessive celebration wasn't appreciated either (by me anyway) - (but, then again, neither was Taylor's after his 3rd place win over Clark)
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish
Post by: stbird on March 10, 2014, 06:51:39 PM
After Taylor got dominated and stuck by Clark not long ago I think he deserved a little celebration for his performance and I'm sure the crowd loved it.  It wish I were there to see it! 


Quote from: neutral on March 10, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
Quote from: harley on March 10, 2014, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: jaguarwrestler on March 10, 2014, 09:03:20 AM
I can't stand Ramos, his do nothing and win ugly style makes me want to stick a fork in my eye. His stare down makes you think he is about to attack you... but then he just gets ready to block anything coming his way.

Personally I thought TG had an escape before riding time and I think he thought he had it a well. At the end of the day he was on his feet for 5 minutes the first 2 periods and didn't take hardly any shots. He should have opened up, nothing to lose this week.

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... and the excessive celebration wasn't appreciated either (by me anyway) - (but, then again, neither was Taylor's after his 3rd place win over Clark)
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish - Joe Shinners
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 11, 2014, 04:43:15 PM
I re-watched this match.  Most of the on the feet seemed to be straight on hand fighting and head ties.  

Work on the setups Tyler !!!  Force the Action and Move Him !!
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish - Joe Shinners
Post by: woody53 on March 11, 2014, 04:59:50 PM
Ramos did a great job of blocking with his straight arm on the neck. Tyler will learn from this.
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish - Joe Shinners
Post by: Manty77 on March 11, 2014, 05:57:25 PM
My guess is that Graff won't face Ramos again.  Looks like the seeds will be Colon, Schopp, Ramos, Morrison, Graff.  Even if Graff and Morrison are flip-flopped, Graff will face Morrison, then Colon, and then Schopp.  I don't think Ramos will get by Schopp  ;)

And I think Graff will learn from his Midlands match against Colon.  Graff was dominating him on their feet but lost the match on the mat.
Title: Re: Graff Gruff After 2nd Place Finish - Joe Shinners
Post by: Wisconsin Wrestling Fan on March 11, 2014, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: Manty77 on March 11, 2014, 05:57:25 PM
My guess is that Graff won't face Ramos again.  Looks like the seeds will be Colon, Schopp, Ramos, Morrison, Graff.  Even if Graff and Morrison are flip-flopped, Graff will face Morrison, then Colon, and then Schopp.  I don't think Ramos will get by Schopp  ;)

And I think Graff will learn from his Midlands match against Colon.  Graff was dominating him on their feet but lost the match on the mat.

I think the 4 or 5 seed would work out fine for Tyler !!