125 LBS.
1. Spencer Lee, Iowa
2. Liam Cronin, Nebraska
3. Malik Heinselman, Ohio State
4. Patrick McKee, Minnesota
5. Rayvon Foley, Michigan State
6. Eric Barnett, Wisconsin
7. Devin Schroder, Purdue
8. Michael DeAugustino, Northwestern
9. Dylan Ragusin, Michigan
10. Justin Cardani, Illinois
11. Robert Howard, Penn State
12. Jacob Moran, Indiana
13. Dylan Shawver, Rutgers
14. Zach Spence, Maryland
133 LBS.
1. Roman Bravo-Young, Penn State
2. Austin DeSanto, Iowa
3. Sammy Alvarez, Rutgers
4. Lucas Byrd, Illinois
5. Chris Cannon, Northwestern
6. Jack Medley, Michigan
7. Boo Dryden, Minnesota
8. Jordan Decatur, Ohio State
9. Jacob Rundell, Purdue
10. Kyle Burwick, Wisconsin
11. Tucker Sjomeling, Nebraska
12. Jordan Hamdan, Michigan State
13. Kyle Luigs, Indiana
14. Jackson Cockrell, Maryland
141 LBS.
1. Jaydin Eierman, Iowa
2. Nick Lee, Penn State
3. Sebastian Rivera, Rutgers
4. Chad Red, Nebraska
5. Dylan Duncan, Illinois
6. Marcos Polanco, Minnesota
7. Dylan D'Emilio, Ohio State
8. Drew Mattin, Michigan
9. Parker Filius, Purdue
10. Cayden Rooks, Indiana
11. Danny Bertoni, Maryland
12. Matt Santos, Michigan State
13. Colin Valdiviez, Northwestern
14. Dominic Dentino, Wisconsin
149 LBS.
1. Sammy Sasso, Ohio State
2. Max Murin, Iowa
3. Griffin Parriott, Purdue
4. Yahya Thomas, Northwestern
5. Kanen Storr, Michigan
6. Michael Blockhus, Minnesota
7. Ridge Lovett, Nebraska
8. Mike VanBrill, Rutgers
9. Graham Rooks, Indiana
10. Peyton Omania, Michigan State
11. Beau Bartlett, Penn State
12. Drew Scharenbrock, Wisconsin
13. Christian Kanzler, Illinois
14. Michael North, Maryland
157 LBS.
1. Ryan Deakin, Northwestern
2. Kaleb Young, Iowa
3. Brayton Lee, Minnesota
4. Kendall Coleman, Purdue
5. Brady Berge, Penn State
6. Will Lewan, Michigan
7. Chase Saldate, Michigan State
8. Garrett Model, Wisconsin
9. Elijah Cleary, Ohio State
10. Caleb Licking, Nebraska
11. Michael Doetsch, Maryland
12. Johnny Mologousis, Illinois
13. Luke Baughman, Indiana
165 LBS.
1. Alex Marinelli, Iowa
2. Dan Braunagel, Illinois
3. Ethan Smith, Ohio State
4. Cameron Amine, Michigan
5. Andrew Sparks, Minnesota
6. Joe Lee, Penn State
7. Peyton Robb, Nebraska
8. Jake Tucker, Michigan State
9. Nick South, Indiana
10. Gerrit Nijenhuis, Purdue
11. Jonathan Spadafora, Maryland
12. David Ferrante, Northwestern
13. Brett Donner, Rutgers
14. Josh Otto, Wisconsin
174 LBS.
1. Michael Kemerer, Iowa
2. Mikey Labriola, Nebraska
3. Carter Starocci, Penn State
4. Logan Massa, Michigan
5. Donnell Washington, Indiana
6. Kaleb Romero, Ohio State
7. Jackson Turley, Rutgers
8. Jared Krattiger, Wisconsin
9. Jake Allar, Minnesota
10. Drew Hughes, Michigan State
11. DJ Shannon, Illinois
12. Emil Soehnlen, Purdue
13. Troy Fisher, Northwestern
14. Philip Spadafora, Maryland
184 LBS.
1. Aaron Brooks, Penn State
2. Christopher Weiler, Wisconsin
3. Layne Malczewski, Michigan State
4. Owen Webster, Minnesota
5. John Poznanski, Rutgers
6. Taylor Venz, Nebraska
7. Max Lyon, Purdue
8. Zach Braunagel, Illinois
9. Nelson Brands, Iowa
10. Rocky Jordan, Ohio State
11. Kyle Cochran, Maryland
12. Jaden Bullock, Michigan
13. Jon Halvorsen, Northwestern
14. Santos Cantu III, Indiana
197 LBS.
1. Eric Schultz, Nebraska
2. Myles Amine, Michigan
3. Jacob Warner, Iowa
4. Cam Caffey, Michigan State
5. Lucas Davison, Northwestern
6. Thomas Penola, Purdue
7. Michael Beard, Penn State
8. Matt Wroblewski, Illinois
9. Gavin Hoffman, Ohio State
10. Billy Janzer, Rutgers
11. Garrett Joles, Minnesota
12. Jaron Smith, Maryland
13. Nick Willham, Indiana
14. Andrew Salemme, Wisconsin
285 LBS.
1. Gable Steveson, Minnesota
2. Mason Parris, Michigan
3. Tony Cassioppi Iowa
4. Luke Luffman, Illinois
5. Christian Lance, Nebraska
6. Trent Hillger, Wisconsin
7. Greg Kerkvliet, Penn State
8. Tate Orndorff, Ohio State
9. Christian Rebottaro Michigan State
10. Jack Heyob, Northwestern
11. Christian Colucci, Rutgers
12. Dorian Keys, Purdue
13. Rudy Streck, Indiana
14. Garrett Kappes, Maryland
I hope those stick. Those are some very good draws for the Badgers.
Predictions:
Barnett will qualify. He is wrestling much better then when he first wrestled Heinselmen. I could see him making a run to the BIG10 finals.
Burwick will have to beat Decatur or Rundell to qualify. Those are winnable matches.
Scharenbrock has a tough draw. WOW! If he beats Kanen Storr first round, he will still have to beat Yaya Thomas or Beau Bartlett to qualify. If he loses first round, he is going to have to beat the loser of Blockhus/Parriot. His funk will keep him in these matches. Hopefully he can get hot at the right time.
Model will have to beat Saldate or Licking to qualify. Very winnable matches.
Kratty will have to beat Drew Hughes or Turley from Rutgers. Turley has had a weird season. Lost to Maylor in his first match of the year, but beat Allar by TF on 1/31. Easiest path for Kratty is beating Allar and beating up Drew Hughes on the backside. Hughes isn't tough enough to handle Kratty's handfighting.
Weiler has a good chance to make the finals. This 184 bracket is funky. I could see Weiler having to beat Rocky Jordan from the 10 seed and Taylor Venz from the 6 seed in order to make finals. Not an easy task, but doable.
Hilliger is going to finish 7th or 8th. He will not beat Cassiappi and I do not think he will beat the loser of Kerklivet or Parris. Tough draw.
Badgers punch through 5 on AQs. 125, 157,174,184,285
how much movement of these pre seeds will there be before go time on Saturday?? When are the seeds finalized??
I'm pretty sure these are the final seeds the only things that could change would be if a wrestler were to get hurt at practice sometime this week then he would be replaced and the seeds would be changed accordingly
They have a coaches meeting at 11 am on Friday to appeal seeds. I could see some movement. As it stands, Eric Barnett has Robbie Howard first round. Badgers are also projected to take 3rd last based on preseeds.
Quote from: tigerking on March 03, 2021, 08:40:29 AM
They have a coaches meeting at 11 am on Friday to appeal seeds. I could see some movement. As it stands, Eric Barnett has Robbie Howard first round. Badgers are also projected to take 3rd last based on preseeds.
Really? I wouldn't have guessed that just from scanning the seeds. That said, the success/failure of the Badgers at the meet isn't predicated so much on the Badgers getting through to the semi-finals as much as it is to being able to slog through the consolations and beat guys that they lost to earlier in the season.
Quote from: npope on March 03, 2021, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: tigerking on March 03, 2021, 08:40:29 AM
They have a coaches meeting at 11 am on Friday to appeal seeds. I could see some movement. As it stands, Eric Barnett has Robbie Howard first round. Badgers are also projected to take 3rd last based on preseeds.
Really? I wouldn't have guessed that just from scanning the seeds. That said, the success/failure of the Badgers at the meet isn't predicated so much on the Badgers getting through to the semi-finals as much as it is to being able to slog through the consolations and beat guys that they lost to earlier in the season.
Agreed. Guys like Burwick, Scharenbrock, Model, and Kratty are going to have to battle on the backside to qualify.
It does hurt being projected to be the 3rd last team, but there is a lot of room for improvement.
125-Barnett almost teched McKee who is the 4 and Barnett is opposite of Spencer so anything can happen.
133-I am predicting Burwick upsets Dryden round 1 and then would face Desanto. Burwick would then have Decatur/Rundell which are both winnable matches. If Burwick wins that he win be top 8, which I think he will be!
141-We are ranked 14th. In his second match will face Bertoni from Maryland who is 2-6. I like our chances to win that match, but then would have Chad Red/Dylan Duncan.
149-Sharenbrock has Kanen Storr round 1 which is a tough but winnable match. If he loses he should beat Kantzler from Illinois and then would have Blockhous or Parriott based on seeds. If you win that match he is top 8.
157-Model has Cleary round 1 who he beat in a super close match for the reward of wrestling Ryan Deakin. If he beats Cleary he will have Licking who he beat already on the backside to make top 8. If he loses to Cleary he will have Saldate a freshman from MSU.
165-First Ethan Smith-he was super competitive with him in the dual(5-3). He would then have Spadafora from Maryland which I think he wins. Then it would be Amine or Sparks to be top 8.
174-Rematch with Allar which I think he wins then Kemerer. Then Drew Hughes from MSU. If he wins that he is top 8 which I think he will!
184-Weiler got an awesome spot in the bracket. Will have Lyon or Jordan(who he did lose to but early in season). If he wins that he would have Venz who he already beat or Malczewski to make the finals!
197-Not good will have Warner from Iowa and then probably Garret Joles from Minnesota who has a lot of offense.
285- Will have Colluci from Rutgers then Cassioppi from Iowa to make the semis. If he were to lose to Cass he would have a fairly easy match and then would face Kerkvleit from PSU most likely. Tough draw.
Wait 'til next year!!
Quote from: npope on March 03, 2021, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: tigerking on March 03, 2021, 08:40:29 AM
They have a coaches meeting at 11 am on Friday to appeal seeds. I could see some movement. As it stands, Eric Barnett has Robbie Howard first round. Badgers are also projected to take 3rd last based on preseeds.
Really? I wouldn't have guessed that just from scanning the seeds. That said, the success/failure of the Badgers at the meet isn't predicated so much on the Badgers getting through to the semi-finals as much as it is to being able to slog through the consolations and beat guys that they lost to earlier in the season.
Ooohhh, I get it now - third to the
last! I misread the post and thought you said the Badgers are predicted to finish third. Note to self, "Must improve reading comprehension."
Quote from: Handles II on March 04, 2021, 07:45:03 AM
Wait 'til next year!!
After a BAD year they should make a big jump up in the Big Ten, right?
Quote from: dad 2 5 on March 04, 2021, 06:00:43 PM
Quote from: Handles II on March 04, 2021, 07:45:03 AM
Wait 'til next year!!
After a BAD year they should make a big jump up in the Big Ten, right?
Define big jump. Top 4, or more like 8th?
Assuming Barnett, Wick, Krattiger, Weiler, Amos, and Hillger all are on the team next year and healthy, it would seem we could finish as high as 5th. It would appear we would need a lot of improvement or an additional transfer or 2 to finish above Michigan and OSU. It would take 5 or 6 high end transfers to finish close to Iowa or PSU...but that can be said with almost anyone.
Kirkvliet #7 at Heavyweight? I know he's better than that. Raw deal for Parris even though Parris may beat him. I'm guessing he's the 2nd or 3rd best heavyweight. I know he didn't "earn" any seed this year but the goal should still be to seed the wrestlers so you get the best wrestlers advancing. #6 would be much better for everybody IMO.
Quote from: mkm13 on March 05, 2021, 08:03:28 AM
Assuming Barnett, Wick, Krattiger, Weiler, Amos, and Hillger all are on the team next year and healthy, it would seem we could finish as high as 5th. It would appear we would need a lot of improvement or an additional transfer or 2 to finish above Michigan and OSU. It would take 5 or 6 high end transfers to finish close to Iowa or PSU...but that can be said with almost anyone.
I also like Scharenbrock and Model. They have improved quite a bit since they stepped on campus. Amos makes 197 and those guys return next year, we could be dangerous.
Quote from: Army Ant on March 05, 2021, 08:19:53 AM
Kirkvliet #7 at Heavyweight? I know he's better than that. Raw deal for Parris even though Parris may beat him. I'm guessing he's the 2nd or 3rd best heavyweight. I know he didn't "earn" any seed this year but the goal should still be to seed the wrestlers so you get the best wrestlers advancing. #6 would be much better for everybody IMO.
Regular season matters and Kerkvliet did not beat anybody with a win. By the standards in which the Big Tens usually does their seeds, he should be a 13 seed. That seed would also be fitting because he would beat Luffman and "steal" his 4 seed.
Quote from: Army Ant on March 05, 2021, 08:19:53 AM
Kirkvliet #7 at Heavyweight? I know he's better than that. Raw deal for Parris even though Parris may beat him. I'm guessing he's the 2nd or 3rd best heavyweight. I know he didn't "earn" any seed this year but the goal should still be to seed the wrestlers so you get the best wrestlers advancing. #6 would be much better for everybody IMO.
Kirkvliet is definitely better than a 7 seed. The below match took place when Kirkvliet was just 16 yrs old and was 40lbs lighter than Steveson.
https://www.twincities.com/2018/02/02/steveson-holds-off-kerkvliet-in-high-school-wrestling-battle-for-the-ages/
Quote from: Ledger on March 05, 2021, 09:02:58 AM
Quote from: Army Ant on March 05, 2021, 08:19:53 AM
Kirkvliet #7 at Heavyweight? I know he's better than that. Raw deal for Parris even though Parris may beat him. I'm guessing he's the 2nd or 3rd best heavyweight. I know he didn't "earn" any seed this year but the goal should still be to seed the wrestlers so you get the best wrestlers advancing. #6 would be much better for everybody IMO.
Kirkvliet is definitely better than a 7 seed. The below match took place when Kirkvliet was just 16 yrs old and was 40lbs lighter than Steveson.
https://www.twincities.com/2018/02/02/steveson-holds-off-kerkvliet-in-high-school-wrestling-battle-for-the-ages/
Potential talent has nothing to do with what seed you deserve. I know he is better then a 7 seed. I am not dumb. What I am saying is they look at the record from this season is and he has not beaten anyone. The only guy he has defeated in the entire field is the 14 seed. Only reason I am upset that he is the 7 seed is it locks Hilliger into the 7th place match.
The 133 seeds are going to change some. Alvarez is out for Rutgers at 133 and Metzler is in. This is going to impact who KB wrestles and he will likely move to the 9 with Metzler slotting at the 10. They have the same common opponents with KB wining by Major over Cummings and losing by decision to Decatur and Metzler wining by decision over Cummings and losing by decision to Decatur. KB also has 5 more matches and I think they will reward that. His other 5 matches are 3 losses to wrestlers seeded in the top 6 and a win over the 11 seed.
Quote from: vsmf2010 on March 05, 2021, 12:10:12 PM
The 133 seeds are going to change some. Alvarez is out for Rutgers at 133 and Metzler is in. This is going to impact who KB wrestles and he will likely move to the 9 with Metzler slotting at the 10. They have the same common opponents with KB wining by Major over Cummings and losing by decision to Decatur and Metzler wining by decision over Cummings and losing by decision to Decatur. KB also has 5 more matches and I think they will reward that. His other 5 matches are 3 losses to wrestlers seeded in the top 6 and a win over the 11 seed.
I feel bad for Alvarez. Exciting wrestler to watch, but this is big for Burwick. Hopefully he capitalizes on this and makes a run to the NCAA Tournament.
Quote from: tigerking on March 05, 2021, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: Ledger on March 05, 2021, 09:02:58 AM
Quote from: Army Ant on March 05, 2021, 08:19:53 AM
Kirkvliet #7 at Heavyweight? I know he's better than that. Raw deal for Parris even though Parris may beat him. I'm guessing he's the 2nd or 3rd best heavyweight. I know he didn't "earn" any seed this year but the goal should still be to seed the wrestlers so you get the best wrestlers advancing. #6 would be much better for everybody IMO.
Kirkvliet is definitely better than a 7 seed. The below match took place when Kirkvliet was just 16 yrs old and was 40lbs lighter than Steveson.
https://www.twincities.com/2018/02/02/steveson-holds-off-kerkvliet-in-high-school-wrestling-battle-for-the-ages/
Potential talent has nothing to do with what seed you deserve. I know he is better then a 7 seed. I am not dumb. What I am saying is they look at the record from this season is and he has not beaten anyone. The only guy he has defeated in the entire field is the 14 seed. Only reason I am upset that he is the 7 seed is it locks Hilliger into the 7th place match.
Do you want to see people seeded on what they "deserve" or how good you think they are? the problem with what they "deserve" is that it isn't done in a vacuum. It affects other wrestlers. Now the #2 seed has a tougher road than the #3 seed which isn't "deserved" either. Then if Kirk loses to Parriis, as you stated, Hilger gets screwed in the consolations. By doing what is "fair" to Kirkvliet you screw over other wrestlers. Try to put the best wrestlers at the highest seeds.
Quote from: Army Ant on March 05, 2021, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: tigerking on March 05, 2021, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: Ledger on March 05, 2021, 09:02:58 AM
Quote from: Army Ant on March 05, 2021, 08:19:53 AM
Kirkvliet #7 at Heavyweight? I know he's better than that. Raw deal for Parris even though Parris may beat him. I'm guessing he's the 2nd or 3rd best heavyweight. I know he didn't "earn" any seed this year but the goal should still be to seed the wrestlers so you get the best wrestlers advancing. #6 would be much better for everybody IMO.
Kirkvliet is definitely better than a 7 seed. The below match took place when Kirkvliet was just 16 yrs old and was 40lbs lighter than Steveson.
https://www.twincities.com/2018/02/02/steveson-holds-off-kerkvliet-in-high-school-wrestling-battle-for-the-ages/
Potential talent has nothing to do with what seed you deserve. I know he is better then a 7 seed. I am not dumb. What I am saying is they look at the record from this season is and he has not beaten anyone. The only guy he has defeated in the entire field is the 14 seed. Only reason I am upset that he is the 7 seed is it locks Hilliger into the 7th place match.
Do you want to see people seeded on what they "deserve" or how good you think they are? the problem with what they "deserve" is that it isn't done in a vacuum. It affects other wrestlers. Now the #2 seed has a tougher road than the #3 seed which isn't "deserved" either. Then if Kirk loses to Parriis, as you stated, Hilger gets screwed in the consolations. By doing what is "fair" to Kirkvliet you screw over other wrestlers. Try to put the best wrestlers at the highest seeds.
This is absurd. HWT at Big 10s is tough. Not many guys have a good draw. I think Hilger is better than Luffman and Lance, does that mean he should be seeded ahead of them? No! He didn't beat them this year. Kerkvliet is only going to wrestle enough to qualify anyways so don't get too wound up just yet.
Not wound up. What u think isn't too important but yah if it's unanimous then seed him higher than them. I don't think everybody would agree with u though.
Quote from: tigerking on March 05, 2021, 08:25:20 AM
Quote from: mkm13 on March 05, 2021, 08:03:28 AM
Assuming Barnett, Wick, Krattiger, Weiler, Amos, and Hillger all are on the team next year and healthy, it would seem we could finish as high as 5th. It would appear we would need a lot of improvement or an additional transfer or 2 to finish above Michigan and OSU. It would take 5 or 6 high end transfers to finish close to Iowa or PSU...but that can be said with almost anyone.
I also like Scharenbrock and Model. They have improved quite a bit since they stepped on campus. Amos makes 197 and those guys return next year, we could be dangerous.
They may have improved, but they both appear to have a long way to go if they are going to make any impact in competing with the top teams.
Mason dominated Kerkvliet! Kerkvliet will be hampered his whole career with his knee injury. He's a awesome wrestler, but he won't overcome that knee and that's misfortunate!
Quote from: Wrestling Thug on March 06, 2021, 01:47:18 PM
Mason dominated Kerkvliet! Kerkvliet will be hampered his whole career with his knee injury. He's a awesome wrestler, but he won't overcome that knee and that's misfortunate!
Never? Why do u say that? I don't believe knees injuries are ever career emding in wrestling. It can take several months though.
Knee injuries most definitely can be career ending. In his case it has stopped him for several years. In one of Mason's takedowns you can see him wince. I believe if Kerkvliet is completely injury free he definitely would be able to fight off leg attacks and reattack much better.
Did a bad knee (ACL) hamper Lee from Iowa? How about Maranelii from Iowa? How about Yanni from Cornel?