Baumgartner, Guira, Jantzen helped ex-wrestler Ruffalo prep for Foxcatcher movie
http://www.examiner.com/article/baumgartner-guira-jantzen-helped-ex-wrestler-ruffalo-prep-for-foxcatcher-movie
http://fb.me/SzgUzb9F.
Chills when I watch this. Ruffalo looks just like Dave Schulz
Due in theaters in December
Jim Gruenwald would have made the best Dave Schultz in the movie...just saying
That looks awesome; good cast.
This past 12 - 18 months our sport has received much attention due to being on the short list of potential sports to be dropped by the Olympics. We have raised support and opened eyes to how passionate Wrestling is to those that love it and to some who had no idea they could. There are many that are consistant great ambassadors on line or in public. Ben Askrens push to sell out the Big Tens comes to mind. Now that our season is about to be hitting full stride I think we should find Over Drive and go harder.
That being said I have another idea: The movie "Foxcatcher" will soon be released to the movie theatres. It is an amazing true story that is being played out by some major heavy hitters in Hollywood. Lets also sell it out !!! Tell everyone everywhere to go see it. What better way to let the world know the passion that we all have for wrestling then to hit people right smack in the gut. Number one in the box office wether we like it or not has a lot of impact on peoples feelings towards topics they previously did not know much about. If its as good as the book it will be a blockbuster !
Bennett Miller drama 'Foxcatcher' lands November release date
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-bennett-miller-foxcatcher-lands-november-release-date-20140422,0,5492303.story#axzz2zkQcxcIL
http://www.movieweb.com/movie/foxcatcher/trailer
Looks pretty intense.
That's some serious star power in this movie. Looking forward to seeing it.
'Foxcatcher' For Cannes: Steve Carell Was First Choice For Obsessive Wrestling Coach Role [Pictures]
http://www.contactmusic.com/article/foxcatcher-movie-cannes-trailer-steve-carell-channing-tatum-bennett-miller_4196533
Steve Carell Disappears Into His Killer Character in First 'Foxcatcher' Clip
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/the-true-life-channing-tatum-steve-carell-drama-85885992612.html
www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/19/steve-carell-foxcatcher_n_5352189.html
Funny man Carell astonishes Cannes in dark, twisted role
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140519/funny-man-carell-astonishes-cannes-dark-twisted-role
Sports at Cannes: Wrestling with Foxcatcher, Scoring With Red Army
http://time.com/105468/foxcatcher-cannes-review-red-army/
Wow! Looks like a great performance and a great movie! Looking forward to seeing this flick!
Channing Tatum, Mark Ruffalo reveal wrestling injuries from filming Foxcatcher
http://www.examiner.com/article/channing-tatum-mark-ruffalo-reveal-wrestling-injuries-from-filming-foxcatcher
Bennett Miller of US wins best director at Cannes
http://www.focus-fen.net/news/2014/05/24/337279/bennett-miller-of-us-wins-best-director-at-cannes.html
Channing Tatum as You've Never Seen Him Before, in Foxcatcher
http://www.people.com/article/channing-tatum-foxcatcher-trailer-photo-steve-carell-mark-ruffalo-oscar-buzz
New York magazine explores the making of Foxcatcher movie
Examiner.com
'Foxcatcher' is an exploration of two worlds—extreme wealth and Olympic-level wrestling—and of the dissociation that total immersion in either can ...
Channing Tatum New Movie 2014 'Foxcatcher' Trailer Released, Steve Carell Shares On Set ... - Hallels
http://gph.to/1t9yOzo
TIFF: 8 Reasons to Catch 'Foxcatcher'
Biography
The story concerns a pair of Olympic wrestlers, the Schultz Brothers, who find themselves living at the compound of a wealthy new sponsor whose odd ...
http://www.biography.com/news/foxcatcher-film-review-reasons-to-watch
Tom seems pretty excited about it. ;D
Cool to see a big movie about wrestling come forward. I heard about it a few months ago. Told the fiance about it. She didnt seem too interested until I mentioned that Channing Tatum was the main character ;D
'Foxcatcher' at NYFF: Transforming Funnyman Steve Carell Into the "Tortured" du Pont
ScreenCrush
... the disturbed successor of the du Pont family fortune who became obsessed with two Olympic wrestling brothers and tragically shot one to death on ...
http://screencrush.com/foxcatcher-nyff/
Amateur Wrestling News reviews Foxcatcher, interviews director Bennett Miller
http://www.examiner.com/article/amateur-wrestling-news-reviews-foxcatcher-interviews-director-bennett-miller
11/14 is the date and I will make it date night hopefully ;D
Probably the best of all 4 trailers so far.
http://www.flowrestling.org/video/752191-Foxcatcher-Trailer-4#.VD6D9vmwuKV
I'll make sure to go to it more than one time. Big G wanna meet up?
The movie looks incredibly intense and with the start power in it, I think it will do very well at the box office. Looking forward to it.
Quote from: TomM on May 16, 2014, 09:28:20 AM
'Foxcatcher' For Cannes: Steve Carell Was First Choice For Obsessive Wrestling Coach Role [Pictures]
http://www.contactmusic.com/article/foxcatcher-movie-cannes-trailer-steve-carell-channing-tatum-bennett-miller_4196533
"Instead, Bennett's movie promises to show us the unsightly underbelly of a violent sport and the deranged individuals it attracts."
The writer of this article must have spent some a lot of time around some crazy wrestling programs. Wrestling in middle/high school, college, and coaching high school, I haven't come across the level of wrestlers this person has.
Quote from: 1horseman on October 16, 2014, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: TomM on May 16, 2014, 09:28:20 AM
'Foxcatcher' For Cannes: Steve Carell Was First Choice For Obsessive Wrestling Coach Role [Pictures]
http://www.contactmusic.com/article/foxcatcher-movie-cannes-trailer-steve-carell-channing-tatum-bennett-miller_4196533
"Instead, Bennett's movie promises to show us the unsightly underbelly of a violent sport and the deranged individuals it attracts."
The writer of this article must have spent some a lot of time around some crazy wrestling programs. Wrestling in middle/high school, college, and coaching high school, I haven't come across the level of wrestlers this person has.
Sounds like a case of personal bias affecting the author's perceptions. :P
Probably played JV basketball.
Quote from: Handles II on October 16, 2014, 06:43:15 PM
Probably played JV basketball.
...and spent most of his time on the bench. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht3zYt1cBHE
du Pont tragedy film 'Foxcatcher' hits the silver screen
http://www.delconewsnetwork.com/articles/2014/11/05/life/doc545a78b5254b2755157497.txt
I hope it shows up here somewhere. I really want to see it. If it doesn't, might be a good excuse for a road trip. 8)
Per Sony, will be opening in Milwaukee on 12-19
They are doing what they call a rolling release, LA & NY next Friday then they add cities every Friday to gain some word of mouth.
If it does well in Milwaukee the rest of the state should have it in mid-January
Friend of mine lives in LA saw a prescreen, can not stop talking about it, said Carrell will blow your mind.
I'd drive to Minneapolis to watch it. Hopefully, it plays in Rice Lake or EauClaire.
I am glad to see the wheels this thread has created ! The book is a great read that you won't put down if you want hear the story as written by Mark Schultz (with Dave Thomas) before you see the movie. I am really hoping it is as good! Also, because of the earlier ties Dave had with the Wisconsin wrestling community before foxcatcher, there are a few coaches and ex coaches in our state that actually can tell you from first hand experience how accurate the portrayals in the movie are because they were there. I don't want to say who they are for privacy reasons, but during the early parts of the upcoming season ask around and you will most likely be lead to some pretty good sources that can give some great insight.
'Foxcatcher' tells story of murder, money and wrestling
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2014/11/09/foxcatcher-steve-carell-john-du-pont-dave-schultz-wrestling/18766319/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomolympicscoverage-topstories
Doug Moe: 'Foxcatcher' character coached wrestling in Madison
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/columnists/doug-moe/doug-moe-foxcatcher-character-coached-wrestling-in-madison/article_ad9477a9-6a21-57d3-b113-1223fdc99d03.html
DOUG MOE dmoe@madison.com, 608-252-6446
They built the set of "Foxcatcher," a film that opens Friday in New York and Los Angeles, with such care that Nancy Schultz felt like she was back in her old house.
"Right down to the books on the shelves," Schultz said recently by phone from Philadelphia, where the movie had an early premiere.
Schultz said Mark Ruffalo, the actor who plays her husband, Dave Schultz, in the film, so embodied the role, and looked so much the part, that Nancy's adult daughter joked on the set about climbing into his lap. That's how much Ruffalo reminded her of her dad.
Yet for all the care and respect the filmmakers put into getting "Foxcatcher" right, surely it must have been difficult for Nancy Schultz to revisit the story, at least its end.
"It really wasn't," she said. "It was a true honor to be a part of the movie."
The film — which has received rapturous early reviews, and earned Bennett Miller ("Moneyball," "Capote") the best director award at Cannes last spring — tells the story of Dave Schultz, who was an Olympic wrestling champion, his younger brother, Mark Schultz, also a gold medal-winning wrestler, and how their lives intersected with John du Pont, heir to a chemical company fortune. Du Pont built a matchless training facility for elite wrestlers on his Foxcatcher estate outside Philadelphia. At the same time, the millionaire was sinking into madness.
Du Pont is played by Steve Carell, Mark Schultz is played by Channing Tatum, and Nancy Schultz is portrayed by Sienna Miller.
I was speaking with Nancy last week — we had chatted once before, in early 2013 — because in 1986, her husband's wrestling brought them to Madison. The Badgers' wrestling coach, Andy Rein — Dave's teammate at the 1984 Olympics — hired Schultz as an assistant.
"I feel like I'm in heaven here," Schultz told The Capital Times in September 1986. He and Nancy and their young son, Alexander, had been in Madison a month by then.
"The athletic department really seems to be behind the program," Schultz said in the interview. The story detailed his wrestling accomplishments prior to coming to Madison, a dazzling resume that included multiple world championships, complemented by a generous spirit and charismatic personality.
"The way everyone has treated us here," Schultz said, "it already feels like home."
He did miss California, Schultz said, where he was a state high school wrestling champion. "It's not the climate that I miss, it's the activities. I like to scuba dive. I love to scuba dive. I miss that. I dreamed about it last night."
The family, which soon included a new daughter, Danielle, stayed in Madison until early 1989, when Dave took a position in Colorado with the U.S. national team. Before the year was out, they would move again — to du Pont's Foxcatcher estate, where Dave would join his brother, Mark, as a coach at the newly minted 14,000-square-foot wrestling facility.
It was Mark Schultz who made the original du Pont connection. While Dave was coaching in Madison, Mark was an assistant at Villanova University, where John du Pont funded the creation of a wrestling program with the stipulation that he be the coach. Du Pont proved a loose enough cannon that the school abandoned wrestling after just two seasons. Du Pont, undaunted, established the training center at Foxcatcher.
There has never been a lot of money in wrestling.
Being able to live comfortably while training against the best of their peers was a gift. "Steel sharpens steel," Dave Schultz said, quoting Badgers wrestling great Lee Kemp. At night, the young families gathered for cookouts.
"It was a kind of utopia," Nancy said. "For a while."
The New York Times wrote of du Pont, quoting Foxcatcher wrestlers, "His behavior changed from unconventional to troubling over the years."
"Serious mental health issues," Nancy said. In 1995, the Times reported, at the world wrestling championships in Atlanta, "du Pont wore an orange jumpsuit and asked to be introduced as the Dalai Lama."
Dave, always the one who could reason with du Pont, was becoming increasingly concerned. After the Olympics in 1996, he and Nancy were planning to leave Foxcatcher.
On the afternoon of Jan. 26, 1996, Dave and Nancy were inside their home at Foxcatcher when Dave said he was going outside to work on their car radio. Nancy heard a shot and a scream from her husband. She looked out and saw du Pont holding a gun. There were more shots. Nancy called 911.
Du Pont was found guilty but mentally ill. Sentenced to 13 to 30 years, he died in prison in 2010.
Nancy Schultz has lived in the San Francisco Bay area since a few months after Dave's murder. His family and friends helped her raise their two children.
After du Pont's death — he had threatened her from prison — Nancy felt better able to cooperate both with the making of "Foxcatcher," and a documentary, "David," due out next year.
Nancy said Sony Pictures encouraged her to invite many of the wrestlers who lived at Foxcatcher to the movie's Philadelphia premiere earlier this month. "It was very nice to be able to share the film with people who cared so much for Dave," she said.
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Quote from: heavy9278 on November 07, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
Per Sony, will be opening in Milwaukee on 12-19
They are doing what they call a rolling release, LA & NY next Friday then they add cities every Friday to gain some word of mouth.
If it does well in Milwaukee the rest of the state should have it in mid-January
Friend of mine lives in LA saw a prescreen, can not stop talking about it, said Carrell will blow your mind.
Marcus Theaters has it listed on their website as November 21st release in their theaters. Not sure if this is selected theaters or not.
Lame part about that is that Milwaukee isn't a big wrestling area. So those of you out and around the 'burbs', skate your way into town bring your family, friends, neighbors and pets and pack the theaters so that the rest of the state can get a view of this movie.
Brother of Olympic champion murdered by wealthy du Pont heir says new Channing Tatum movie has helped him finally come to terms with the senseless crime
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2834082/Brother-Olympic-champion-murdered-wealthy-du-Pont-heir-says-new-Channing-Tatum-movie-helped-finally-comes-terms-senseless-crime.html#ixzz3J63TusTr
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Goodwin: The last man to wrestle Dave Schultz
http://www.dailyiowan.com/2014/11/14/Sports/40039.html
BY CODY GOODWIN | NOVEMBER 14, 2014 5:00 AM
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The last man to wrestle Dave Schultz remembers their last conversation as a normal one. It was Jan., 25, 1996, and Brandon Slay, a business student and wrestler at the University of Pennsylvania at the time, had just gotten his tail kicked by Schultz, widely regarded as one of the sport's greatest technicians.
Afterward, Slay gathered his things to head back to Penn's campus, around 25 miles from "The Farm," as they called it. "Hey, I'll see you again next Tuesday," he recalls telling Schultz.
The next day, Schultz, at just 36, was gunned down by multimillionaire John du Pont.
"I was in our locker room at Penn," Slay said. "Coach [Roger] Reina came in and said, 'Hey Brandon, I need to talk to you.' And I knew that whatever he was going to share with me wasn't good.
"He said John killed Dave, about 3 o'clock."
The story of Schultz's death is highlighted in the movie Foxcatcher, which tells the harrowing tale of du Pont and his relationship with Schultz and younger brother Mark. The movie is set to release in select markets today.
Slay, now 39 and a resident freestyle coach for USA Wrestling, watched the movie last week. Schultz's widow, Nancy, flew to Colorado Springs and gathered those who were involved in her husband's life for an early screening at the Olympic Training Center.
"It was emotionally grueling for me because it hit so close to home," Slay said. "I knew Dave. I trained with Dave. I was very close to Foxcatcher ... When they showed [Schultz's murder], it was pretty difficult to watch."
Watching the movie took Slay, if only for a couple of hours, back to The Farm. He was back wrestling with Schultz in the Foxcatcher practice room, the one with mats like those used in the Olympics that had a navy-blue poster hanging with "Team Foxcatcher" on it, the exact place where, according to several wrestlers at the time, du Pont once walked in carrying a gun.
"Seeing the guys run around The Farm and go into the wrestling room at Foxcatcher," Slay said. "It was eerily similar."
Being back on The Farm for those few hours allowed the memories of that whole year to flow like a coursing river. Slay was in his third year at Penn at the time but decided to take that season off from competition. He drove out to Foxcatcher every Tuesday and Thursday to train with the team.
Slay befriended Schultz during that time. He hardly ever scored on Schultz during live goes, and if he did, "I think it was because he gave it to me," he said and laughed. "Dave kind of threw me a bone every now and then."
After practices, Slay picked Schultz's brain about specific wrestling techniques. Schultz always obliged, and in both 1997 and 1998, Slay earned All-American honors at the NCAA Tournament, placing second both years at 167 pounds.
The time spent around Schultz helped bolster Slay's wrestling ability — he ultimately won an Olympic gold in the 2000 Sydney Games and dedicated the medal to Schultz — but it also taught Slay what made Schultz such a loose, easy-going, personable guy.
There's the story of Schultz learning Russian because he traveled there so often. A lot of Russian wrestlers, coaches, and fans appreciated that, and rooted for him on the mat. Schultz was once given one of those beaver-skin hats, and he relished wearing it.
There was even a moment when Slay and Schultz sat in the sauna together. Schultz loved tea and had a cup with him in the sauna. All of a sudden, he jumped and spilled on Slay's leg.
"He had just got done boiling the water, so it was scalding hot," Slay said and laughed. "I screamed out profanities. He goes, 'Man, was that hot?' I go, yeah, it's hot. So he took the same cup of tea and poured some of it on his leg and burned himself, just so he could feel the same pain and experience what I just experienced.
"That's the type of guy Dave was. He was very adventurous and wanted to live life to the fullest."
Foxcatcher centers more on the life of Mark Schultz, but Slay said the film does a good job of depicting Dave as himself, a guy who was universally loved in the sport of wrestling. The problem with death is that we often emphasize the years on the tombstone more than we do the dash in-between. With Dave Schultz, his story, and all that he stood for, lives on in a myriad of ways.
Slay admitted to being apprehensive about seeing the movie. He was worried about how they would represent his hero-turned-practice partner.
After the viewing, though, he couldn't help but smile.
"My college-wrestling coach, he named his son Dave, after Dave Schultz," Slay said. "And I told Coach Reina, you would be totally fine taking your son to see that movie and knowing that that man is his eponym.
"David Reina, after watching Foxcatcher, will be proud to know that he was named after Dave Schultz."
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Steve Carell Plays Eccentric Wrestling Coach in 'Foxcatcher'
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/steve-carell-plays-eccentric-wrestling-coach-foxcatcher-26856411
Ruffalo, Tatum and Carell shine in 'Foxcatcher'
Wisconsin Gazette
http://www.wisconsingazette.com/film/reviewbreakruffalo-tatum-and-carell-shine-in-foxcatcher.html
Mark Schultz: 'Foxcatcher' greater than Olympics
http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/14/mark-schultz-foxcatcher-wrestling-olympics/
Team Foxcatcher: When Swimming and Wrestling Lived Under One Roof
http://swimswam.com/team-foxcatcher-swimming-wrestling-lived-one-roof/
'Foxcatcher' Reviews: Did Channing Tatum's Wrestling Film Pin Critics to Seats or Bore Them Into Submission?
http://www.thewrap.com/foxcatcher-reviews-did-channing-tatums-wrestling-film-pin-critics-to-seats-or-bore-them-into-submission/
Steve Carell and Channing Tatum in 'Foxcatcher'
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/14/movies/steve-carell-and-channing-tatum-in-foxcatcher.html?_r=0
Mark Schultz wants 'Foxcatcher' to honor late brother's memory
USA TODAY
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/11/mark-schultz-foxcatcher-john-du-pont
Movie Review: FOXCATCHER
http://www.assignmentx.com/2014/movie-review-foxcatcher/
Mark Ruffalo on going for broke
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mark-ruffalo-on-going-for-broke/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17
Oriental Theater in Milwaukee has it on their website. Opening 12/19. A group maybe going on Sunday 12/21 if you are interested in joining us.
Foxcatcher Almost Catches It
Foxcatcher Movie Review
http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Foxcatcher.shtml
John Klein: Foxcatcher was emotional for OU premier audience
http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/sports/johnklein/john-klein-foxcatcher-was-emotional-for-ou-premier-audience/article_510d3a59-ed28-5c07-bbd4-e1c1dc513d70.html
By JOHN KLEIN Senior Sports Columnist | 0 comments
NORMAN — At the end of a special premier showing of the movie "Foxcatcher" a small crowd sat speechless, the theater thick with emotion, on Sunday night at the University of Oklahoma Student Union.
Wrestling legend Dan Gable sat motionless, nodding his head as people stopped by to greet him.
Others wept openly.
In a room full of people who knew the story and characters in the movie, Foxcatcher is difficult to watch.
But, it is a terrific movie and a crowd dominated by wrestlers, wrestling coaches and the wrestling community were overwhelmed by the powerful story of amateur wrestling stars Dave and Mark Schultz and a millionaire benefactor.
I'll leave the movie reviews to the experts like my friend Michael Smith, the Tulsa World's terrific film critic.
But, as someone that knew just about everyone involved in the story of the movie, it was fantastic.
There's no doubt why Foxcatcher is getting a lot of Oscar buzz. It isn't a wrestling movie. Yes, it involves the sport of wrestling but it more about power, class, money and complicated family issues. It is a fascinating movie.
It just happens to be very dark, sad and emotional for those that knew this story and the characters in it long before anyone thought of making a movie about it.
The Schultz brothers wrestled at OU.
Actor Mark Ruffalo plays Olympic wrestler Dave Schultz, who was murdered by eccentric millionaire John du Pont in 1996. If you knew Schultz, or ever saw him wrestle, he had very distinctive mannerisms. He walked somewhat pigeon-toed and somewhat slumped over. Rufalo had him down perfect.
"Mark was always asking me how Dave did certain things because he wanted to portray him as accurately as possible and he did," said Nancy Schultz, Dave's widow. "I know it is a hard story, especially for so many people at this showing because so many of these people knew Dave very well."
Actor Channing Tatum played Mark Schultz, Dave's brother who is at the heart of the movie's story. Tatum seemed to capture Mark's shy, quiet nature.
Nancy Schultz, who witnessed her husband's murder, and Alexander Schultz, Dave's son who was named after Russian wrestling legend Alexander Medved, spoke to the crowd prior to the OU premier of the movie. They told several stories about the making of the film. She was a consultant. She was played by Siena Miller in the movie.
Among those that attended the special showing was Dr. Mike Sheets, a Stilwell veterinarian who was a collegiate and Olympic rival of the Schultz brothers.
"That's a tough story to watch," said Sheets. Mark Schultz' 1988 Olympic Trials victory over Sheets, who was a third-year student at the OSU College of Veterinary Mediciane in 1988, was part of the movie.
OU wrestling coach Mark Cody, former OU coach Jack Spates and many former Sooner wrestlers, including two-time Olympian Melvin Douglas, attended the showing. So did Oklahoma State Senior Associate Athletic Director Dave Martin (a former wrestling All-American at Iowa State, OU Executive Associate Athletics Director Larry Naifeh and OU Director of Athletic Compliance Jason Leonard (a former OU wrestler from Perry).
A large group from the National Wrestling Hall of Fame, including executive director Lee Roy Smith, also drove through a snowstorm to attend the Norman premier.
"That is tough for all of us to watch but it is a great movie," said Smith.
Cody said many of the current OU wrestling team also came to the showing.
"One of the most important things I talk to our wrestlers about is the history of wrestling at our school," said Cody. "OU has a sensational history and tradition in wrestling.
"The Schultz brothers are important figures in our history. I want them to know the story."
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Does Foxcatcher Stay True to the Scary Real-Life Story That Inspired It?
How Accurate Is Foxcatcher?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/17/foxcatcher_true_story_fact_and_fiction_in_the_steve_carell_movie_about_dave.html
Wow! Very interesting comparison! Thanks for posting it, tom!
'Foxcatcher' ... The Story Of American Wrestling's Most Profound Tragedy
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201411/foxcatcher-telling-story-american-wrestlings-most-profound-tragedy
What's Missing from "Foxcatcher"
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/whats-missing-foxcatcher
It was a chilling moment in an indelible 1996 news story about America's ... - CBS Local
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/11/20/movie-review-foxcatcher/
Bennett Miller On Making The True-Life Crime Film 'Foxcatcher'
http://wutc.org/post/bennett-miller-making-true-life-crime-film-foxcatcher
Can 'Foxcatcher' catch on?: New film built around wrestling, but its real story lies much deeper
http://www.daily-times.com/four_corners-news/ci_26970477/can-foxcatcher-catch-new-film-built-around-wrestling
'Foxcatcher' captures John Du Pont's insanity
http://www.mainlinemedianews.com/articles/2014/11/19/main_line_times/opinion/doc546cc4744c6fb287343712.txt
Foxcatcher does fruitful work in the land of sport
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2014/nov/19/movie-review-low-sport/
I think this is a cautionary tale that applies to any situation in which a person is allowed to buy unwarranted access and power. It's of special interest to us, because this particular example applies to the modern history of our beloved sport.
Yeah it's out and if it didn't have wrestling in it, i'm not sure I would even be interested. Although I here a few good performances. I will wait for the DVD
December 19th in Milwaukee
http://sonyclassics.com/foxcatcher/dates.html
Quote from: numberone on November 21, 2014, 09:59:50 AM
I don't know if anyone has seen the movie yet. However I can't find it anywhere. Any one know where it's playing?
Looked around on internet and appears to be starting with a 'limited' release... I see it offered in New York and Chicago.. and I thought I heard Los Angeles ...
Quote from: charteroak1 on November 21, 2014, 11:01:44 AM
December 19th in Milwaukee
http://sonyclassics.com/foxcatcher/dates.html
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Wrestler Mark Schultz tells real story behind Foxcatcher movie
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844392/I-easily-snapped-neck-Olympic-wrestler-Mark-Schultz-reveals-plotted-kill-John-du-Pont-feels-sorry-millionaire-killed-brother-details-real-story-movie-Foxcatcher.html
I preordered the book and received in the mail this weekend. It is an amazing story. I couldn't put the book down. Lots of history on the Schultz brothers, where they came from and the path they took to be olympic champions. I highly recommend the book.
I should order it, too... or maybe I can talk our city librarian into doing so. That way, more people in our community can read it. Certainly sounds like a good read. 8)
I can't wait to see the movie! Actually got to meet Dave at a camp about 1985 or 86. He let us wear his gold medal. He showed me a couple things I always remembered and used. Great guy.
Thanks for keeping me up to date on the wrestling scene while I bask in the s. New Mexico sun this winter.
Foxcatcher Is The Film Amateur Wrestling Has Deserved – A Review
http://insidepulse.com/2014/11/29/foxcatcher-is-the-film-amateur-wrestling-has-deserved-a-review/
Interesting review....and noteworthy that the person said it could be a better wrestling movie than "VisionQuest" or "Reversal"....
I guess I'll be willing to debate that after I see it.
Yes, those two set the bar so unimaginably high... 8)
Sony just announced on Foxcatcher Facebook page that the movie would be opening nationwide on 12/19
I just talked to an employee at the Carmike Cinema in Rice Lake and he assured me that Foxcatcher WILL come to their facility at Eau Claire. He just didn't know the date, yet.
Foxcatcher opens Friday at the Oriental 3 in Milwaukee and on Christmas Day at Sundance 608 in Madison
Opening this week (finally): 'Foxcatcher' (Opening in Milwuakee)
http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/movies/opening-this-week-finally-foxcatcher-b99408449z1-286245621.html
Saw the movie last night with my sons.... 2 words :
NOT GOOD
Specifics?
While Steve Carrell does a great job playing John du Pont as a deranged man and Channing Tatum does a good job portraying a wrestler, the story is not a good story...at least for a movie.
If you are a wrestling fan, wrestling isn't protrayed very favorably in the movie. The only conclusion one can draw is that Du Pont was molesting/asaulting Schultz and being that Schultz was physically superior, it leaves that question of "why?" unanswered.
There were numerous points during the movie when Dave Schultz asks Mark what is going on between him and Du Pont....but Mark never answers.
Knowing that Dave Schultz gets murdered, you end up waiting for some dramatic build-up to that final confrontation but it more less just happens towards the end.....and then it shows Mark Schultz entering a MMA fight and then the movie just stops.
I'm probably not doing a good job of articulating my disappointment with the movie but while the movie was probably very accurate as to the specific events that happened, it was not a good movie to watch.
Ok, whatever, thanks for elaborating. I still intend to see it, in some fashion, but it's good to have more info. going into the experience.
Quote from: whatever on December 01, 2014, 03:35:53 PM
Interesting review....and noteworthy that the person said it could be a better wrestling movie than "VisionQuest" or "Reversal"....
I guess I'll be willing to debate that after I see it.
I thought
Reversal was disturbing and sickening.
While I'm sure Mark Schultz could explain the rationale in a book, it's glossed over in the movie AND there is a pretty disturbing scene which implies there was something perverted going on....
Again, it's pretty obvious that Du Pont is mentally unstable but the movie also shows Mark Schultz as being depressed/frustrated but the movie never really explains why....so you're left to conjecture that he's messed up because of what is going on with him and Du Pont.
While Tom may not have a high opinion of "VisionQuest", I don't think "Foxcatcher" is anywhere close to being as good of a movie as VQ.....sorry, Tom 8)
I think you were just enamored with the wardrobe selection for the head coach in VQ, which earns it a few more stars on the Whatever ratings index. :)
My parents decided to see Foxcatcher. Said I shouldn't take my 14 year old to see it. I'll take their advice.
I just thought Reversal was stinkin' weird.
That leaves me with VisionQuest. Lauden Swain finds his lady...and his destiny!
I saw the movie last Friday night at the Oriental 3 in Milwaukee - and agree that it's not a great movie ... but worth seeing.
I have not read the book - but from what I remember about the details at the time ... it seems reputable.
Spoiler Alert!
While it doesn't go into great detail about Mark's emotional history ... he is (obviously) not terribly stable before even being introduced to DuPont - likely the by-product of a very unstable chidhood ... and reliance on older brother Dave (happily mariied with kids by the time the movie picks up their story). As we see time-and-time again with sexual abuse - lack of self-confidence/self-esteem is what allows those situations to develop ... not physical dominance - (and Mark was, obviosly, very insecure without Dave). DuPont initially gave Mark a feeling oif his own self-worth ... built on rewards DuPont could control (money & praise, initially).
What I have more difficulty understanding than Mark falling under the influence of DuPont - is Dave & the U.S. Wrestling committee falling into his trap ... Dave especially. I think that speaks volumes to the degree that wrestling was desperate for support - since DuPont's quirkiness was certainly on display for them. I am truly surprised that Dave stayed after realizing (at least) the drug aspect of what DuPont had done to Mark. He (at least) had a respectable job, a seemingly great family, & friends. The DuPont offer was definitely utopia - but at what price. It seems that would have been obvious to him.
I agree that it portrays wrestling in anything but a good light ... and shows nothing of the true training & dedication required to be a world class wrestler (or any wrestler ... for that matter). It is not really a wrestling movie. It is a true story of a sick man, an emotionally weak person (who happens to be a wrestler), and the circumstances that allowed a desperate situation (US wrestling at that time) to be preyed upon.
The one redeeming thing is that Mark is eventually able to recognize that he needs to leave the complex (& Dave) - although, it would seem, not to as successful a life as you would hope for him. Does the book go into more detail about his life after the point at which the movie ends?
Lauden also writes a great article about a female body part that one of classmates showed to her mother!
Quote from: whatever on December 22, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
While I'm sure Mark Schultz could explain the rationale in a book, it's glossed over in the movie AND there is a pretty disturbing scene which implies there was something perverted going on....
Again, it's pretty obvious that Du Pont is mentally unstable but the movie also shows Mark Schultz as being depressed/frustrated but the movie never really explains why....so you're left to conjecture that he's messed up because of what is going on with him and Du Pont.
While Tom may not have a high opinion of "VisionQuest", I don't think "Foxcatcher" is anywhere close to being as good of a movie as VQ.....sorry, Tom 8)
Hey, 'Mr. Spoiler' 8) ... how about a SPOILER alert for those who haven't seen it? :o ;)
Now, why do you think I don't care for Visionquest? I liked it a lot. I do remember making some comment about it a while back (did I?)... that was tongue in cheek.
I am always concerned when movies come out somehow depicting wrestling. Has there been or can there ever be a wrestling movie that will actually be a wrestling movie...?
Perhaps not. I think if I was a basketball person I would think no movie really does basketball any justice either. Maybe we are just all too close to the sport to like any movie about it very much.
Deep Breath Tom, Deep Breath!
I enjoyed the movie, but it went in with the mind set that this was not a "wrestling" movie. If that is what you are expecting, don't go.
This is a movie about a sick and twisted man, and wrestling happens to be apart of it.
Vision a Quest is a wrestling movie, this is not.
But see for yourself, my brother loves The Godfather, I personally hate it, to each their own.
VisionQuest just simply rocks!!!!!
I thought Win/Win was just an awful story line with some good actors in it but I liked the wrestling in Win/Win.
Quote from: littleguy301 on December 22, 2014, 10:47:58 PM
VisionQuest just simply rocks!!!!!
I thought Win/Win was just an awful story line with some good actors in it but I liked the wrestling in Win/Win.
I actually thought it was a good movie. I like Paul Giamatti though. The kid was a former wrestler who had a serious injury and couldnt keep wrestling.
A few years back, e.g. maybe three or four, Mark Schultz was a regular on The Mat.Com forum. His commentary and interaction with the posters was pretty open and transparent (although nobody was asking about his experience at Foxcatcher). He actually was openly looking for employment - in whatever capacity he might find. Things looked pretty rough for him. A couple of other posters went after him personally (evidently they had issues with him or possibly were just trolls) and drove him off that forum.
One can only imagine the psychological damage that resulted from his experiences at Foxcatcher. Harsh stuff.
Quote from: Ghetto on December 22, 2014, 11:45:19 PM
Quote from: littleguy301 on December 22, 2014, 10:47:58 PM
VisionQuest just simply rocks!!!!!
I thought Win/Win was just an awful story line with some good actors in it but I liked the wrestling in Win/Win.
I actually thought it was a good movie. I like Paul Giamatti though. The kid was a former wrestler who had a serious injury and couldnt keep wrestling.
I liked the wrestling, liked the actors but the idea of putting a guy in a nursing home to cash a check and the mom and such. Sure life aint fair but didnt like the story line. With that said I did like the movie because the actors were pretty good at their roles.
Alex Shafer was the kid. State champ in New Jersey and he had only one request that the movie would not interfer with his wrestling. They shot the movie during the spring and fall of his sophmore and Jr years of high school. He then had to do some reshoots at the start of his jr year of wrestling and that is when he broke some bones and ended his wrestling career at that point. He did wrestle at beat the streets in 2012? I believe for his youth wrestling club. Has had a minor role in a movie since, maybe more.
Quote from: TomM on December 22, 2014, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: whatever on December 22, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
While I'm sure Mark Schultz could explain the rationale in a book, it's glossed over in the movie AND there is a pretty disturbing scene which implies there was something perverted going on....
Again, it's pretty obvious that Du Pont is mentally unstable but the movie also shows Mark Schultz as being depressed/frustrated but the movie never really explains why....so you're left to conjecture that he's messed up because of what is going on with him and Du Pont.
While Tom may not have a high opinion of "VisionQuest", I don't think "Foxcatcher" is anywhere close to being as good of a movie as VQ.....sorry, Tom 8)
Hey, 'Mr. Spoiler' 8) ... how about a SPOILER alert for those who haven't seen it? :o ;)
Now, why do you think I don't care for Visionquest? I liked it a lot. I do remember making some comment about it a while back (did I?)... that was tongue in cheek.
I am always concerned when movies come out somehow depicting wrestling. Has there been or can there ever be a wrestling movie that will actually be a wrestling movie...?
Perhaps not. I think if I was a basketball person I would think no movie really does basketball any justice either. Maybe we are just all too close to the sport to like any movie about it very much.
Sorry Tom!
I think you hit it right on the head with being close to the sport to like any movie about it very much.
...But I am partial to VQ as it came out in 1985.....and my older brothers took me to see it the week before the State tourney that year so....
I don't think it's a matter of being too close to the sport to like any movies about it.
I think it's not really possible to make a movie that portrays the intensity of the sport (which I think is what most of us loved the most about it) in a movie format that is entertaining to the general public. A somewhat candidly shot documentary might be more representative of the sport - but not many ... other than wrestlers ... would watch it.
Quote from: Ghetto on December 22, 2014, 11:45:19 PM
Quote from: littleguy301 on December 22, 2014, 10:47:58 PM
VisionQuest just simply rocks!!!!!
I thought Win/Win was just an awful story line with some good actors in it but I liked the wrestling in Win/Win.
I actually thought it was a good movie. I like Paul Giamatti though. The kid was a former wrestler who had a serious injury and couldnt keep wrestling.
I liked VisionQuest and Win/Win. I actually purchased a DVD of VQ. I don't recall ever watching Reversal, though. Giamatti is the bomb! 8)
I still like VQ th best.
Didn't care for Win/Win at all (even though i like almost anything with Giamati).
Liked Legendary ... except for the pyrotechnics at the end ... and the kid being kinda goofy ... (good story though).
Quote from: neutral on December 23, 2014, 09:19:27 AM
I don't think it's a matter of being too close to the sport to like any movies about it.
I think it's not really possible to make a movie that portrays the intensity of the sport (which I think is what most of us loved the most about it) in a movie format that is entertaining to the general public. A somewhat candidly shot documentary might be more representative of the sport - but not many ... other than wrestlers ... would watch it.
One thing that really hurts is that the Hollywood folks really don't fully understand the sport; then they really give viewers a superficial perspective of it, often technically inaccurate. To top it off, they believe that their film's marketability is primarily dependent upon a contrived, loosely-connected, interpersonal story line that comes off as being pretty hokey. To be fair, this is also done with other sports, because most of these Hollywood types couldn't differentiate between a jockstrap, a headgear, and a baseball bat.
Quote from: imnofish on December 23, 2014, 09:55:42 AM
Quote from: neutral on December 23, 2014, 09:19:27 AM
I don't think it's a matter of being too close to the sport to like any movies about it.
I think it's not really possible to make a movie that portrays the intensity of the sport (which I think is what most of us loved the most about it) in a movie format that is entertaining to the general public. A somewhat candidly shot documentary might be more representative of the sport - but not many ... other than wrestlers ... would watch it.
One thing that really hurts is that the Hollywood folks really don't fully understand the sport; then they really give viewers a superficial perspective of it, often technically inaccurate. To top it off, they believe that their film's marketability is primarily dependent upon a contrived, loosely-connected, interpersonal story line that comes off as being pretty hokey. To be fair, this is also done with other sports, because most of these Hollywood types couldn't differentiate between a jockstrap, a headgear, and a baseball bat.
Any sports movie has that "this ain't real" feel to it. Even friday Night Lights and Remember the Titans were football made for Hollywood.
Don't expect a bunch of directors and actors to "get it."
I don't know about that.
Hoosiers ... 42 ... the Replacements ... Brian's song ... Lake Placid ... Ali ... Cinderella Man ... the Fighter ... Raging Bull (all pretty decent at portraying the sports) - but those are sports most people have a "feel" for (other than Lake Placid ... and everybody over 35 relates to that one).
Wrestling is just different. No way you can get a feel for it ... without having experienced it.
Yes, but are you a basketball, pro-football, boxing connoisseur?
I might think those movies are right on the nuts. But maybe it's because I don't know as much about boxing, Basketball, pro football, etc.
You tend to pick apart your own sport a little more.
Quote from: bigG on December 23, 2014, 03:17:11 PM
Yes, but are you a basketball, pro-football, boxing connoisseur?
I might think those movies are right on the nuts. But maybe it's because I don't know as much about boxing, Basketball, pro football, etc.
You tend to pick apart your own sport a little more.
+ 1 I agree, but I can also see where neutral is coming from, because the public has been vicariously overexposed to those sports (via visual media) that most of us mistakenly overestimate our understanding of them. You don't have to be an expert, in order to assume expertise.
Quote from: imnofish on December 23, 2014, 05:44:11 PM
Quote from: bigG on December 23, 2014, 03:17:11 PM
Yes, but are you a basketball, pro-football, boxing connoisseur?
I might think those movies are right on the nuts. But maybe it's because I don't know as much about boxing, Basketball, pro football, etc.
You tend to pick apart your own sport a little more.
I agree with both these points.
+ 1 I agree, but I can also see where neutral is coming from, because the public has been vicariously overexposed to those sports (via visual media) that most of us mistakenly overestimate our understanding of them. You don't have to be an expert, in order to assume expertise.
'Foxcatcher' receives mixed reviews in wrestling community
http://qctimes.com/sports/wrestling/college/foxcatcher-receives-mixed-reviews-in-wrestling-community/article_a7c95da2-3cb4-5594-8656-07d045caa094.html
Does anyone have any idea where I can see this movie in the Madison area??
Looks like it is opening in Appleton tonight - January 16.
Bay park cinema Green Bay tonight also.
Hopefully finish the book this weekend, then the movie.
thought it was in madison about a week ago ,i have heard will be in the dells in early Feb.
Quote from: wrestling135 on January 15, 2015, 11:00:37 PM
Does anyone have any idea where I can see this movie in the Madison area??
It has been at Sundance Cinema behind Hilldale.
::)
Foxcatcher Subject Mark Schultz Recants Criticisms: I Was Temporarily Insane
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/18/foxcatcher-subject-mark-schultz-recants-criticisms-i-was-temporarily-insane.html
I saw the movie a while ago. It was 'ok'... not a wrestling movie. I would not recommend taking kids to see it. Not sure it is even for high school kids. I would not take any high school kids to see it. Nothing new in it. Story is the story. It does get slow at times. Nothing special. I repeat, not a wrestling movie.
I'm looking forward to renting it from Redbox.
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
I'm looking forward to renting it from Redbox.
Those jewel boxes the disk comes in at Redbox are made a Evco Plastics in DeForest, Wisconsin... (little known fact)
Quote from: TomM on January 18, 2015, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
I'm looking forward to renting it from Redbox.
Those jewel boxes the disk comes in at Redbox are made a Evco Plastics in DeForest, Wisconsin... (little known fact)
So, when I rent this movie, I will be "buying local." 8)
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: TomM on January 18, 2015, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
I'm looking forward to renting it from Redbox.
Those jewel boxes the disk comes in at Redbox are made a Evco Plastics in DeForest, Wisconsin... (little known fact)
So, when I rent this movie, I will be "buying local." 8)
Pretty sure you always buy 'loco'....
Quote from: TomM on January 18, 2015, 03:30:21 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: TomM on January 18, 2015, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
I'm looking forward to renting it from Redbox.
Those jewel boxes the disk comes in at Redbox are made a Evco Plastics in DeForest, Wisconsin... (little known fact)
So, when I rent this movie, I will be "buying local." 8)
Pretty sure you always buy 'loco'....
It's that obvious? ;D
Quote from: TomM on January 18, 2015, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
I'm looking forward to renting it from Redbox.
Those jewel boxes the disk comes in at Redbox are made a Evco Plastics in DeForest, Wisconsin... (little known fact)
Also a little known fact, the actual box in Redbox is made by a company called Everbrite, located in Greenfield WI.
Quote from: heavy9278 on January 21, 2015, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: TomM on January 18, 2015, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
I'm looking forward to renting it from Redbox.
Those jewel boxes the disk comes in at Redbox are made a Evco Plastics in DeForest, Wisconsin... (little known fact)
Also a little known fact, the actual box in Redbox is made by a company called Everbrite, located in Greenfield WI.
Good stuff... 8)
Quote from: TomM on January 21, 2015, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: heavy9278 on January 21, 2015, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: TomM on January 18, 2015, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 18, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
I'm looking forward to renting it from Redbox.
Those jewel boxes the disk comes in at Redbox are made a Evco Plastics in DeForest, Wisconsin... (little known fact)
Also a little known fact, the actual box in Redbox is made by a company called Everbrite, located in Greenfield WI.
Good stuff... 8)
Do we make the DVD's too? Wow! Wisconsin is the unsung leader in home entertainment! Who knew??? 8)
I am 3/4 through the book and it has been way more about Mark Schultz than his brother or Fox Catcher.
Interesting to hear. Is it a good read for you?
Not being much of a reader I listened to the audio book last weekend. 70% about Mark and his accomplishments. Interesting how he talked about Dupont and his thoughts of him and the farm.
For others that are not readers. This was my 1st read since H.S. 30 years ago. It was simple, turn it on and work around house, yard or garage till done. Took about 6 hours.
Went to see the movie with my son and about 6 of his high school teamates in the Dells last Sat night.Personally was very disappointed in the movie(along with my son and teamates),very slow story line,ending didnt really seem to fit with rest of the movie.Definately wouldnt really say its a wrestling movie,boys all say ,"save your $$ and rent Vision Quest!!
This wasn't supposed to be a wrestling movie. It was a movie about something that happened in the wrestling community. I wouldn't say it was a bad movie, you just have to go into it in the right mind frame. It was an account of history.
Quote from: boowrestle on January 22, 2015, 08:05:55 AM
Went to see the movie with my son and about 6 of his high school teamates in the Dells last Sat night.Personally was very disappointed in the movie(along with my son and teamates),very slow story line,ending didnt really seem to fit with rest of the movie.Definately wouldnt really say its a wrestling movie,boys all say ,"save your $$ and rent Vision Quest!!
Rent Vision Quest?!? Save your rental fees and BUY a copy! Everyone wrestling fan should own a DVD copy of this movie, my friend! 8)
we do have a copy of it somewheres but its been watched so many times that it is actually worn out. ;)
Quote from: boowrestle on January 22, 2015, 09:46:27 AM
we do have a copy of it somewheres but its been watched so many times that it is actually worn out. ;)
That is awesome, all the more reason to go out and buy another copy. Shoot, maybe even buy two!
On a side note about the Foxcatcher movie, I have had it on a flash drive for about a month now. I still haven't watched it. Maybe this weekend, but I am still not sure.
Quote from: imnofish on January 21, 2015, 11:41:27 PM
Interesting to hear. Is it a good read for you?
I'm not having a hard time putting it down... It is ok, but not great by any means.
Quote from: bigoil on January 22, 2015, 12:45:44 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 21, 2015, 11:41:27 PM
Interesting to hear. Is it a good read for you?
I'm not having a hard time putting it down... It is ok, but not great by any means.
I would say the opposite, I picked it up only 3 times before I finished it. I thought it was a great read!
Quote from: visionquest on January 22, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: bigoil on January 22, 2015, 12:45:44 PM
Quote from: imnofish on January 21, 2015, 11:41:27 PM
Interesting to hear. Is it a good read for you?
I'm not having a hard time putting it down... It is ok, but not great by any means.
I would say the opposite, I picked it up only 3 times before I finished it. I thought it was a great read!
I should probably read it. How many pages? How large is the print? Are there a lot of pictures? Does it come in a comic strip format? Just trying to figure out if I could handle the challenge. ;) Seriously, it does sound interesting, if just from a historical perspective.
The book is a little over 300 pages. Maybe 6-10 pages of pictures. You won't regret the time you spend reading it.
Okay, I'm sold... even if there isn't a comic book version. ;D
The true story behind 'Foxcatcher'
http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/the-true-story-behind-foxcatcher/story-fnq2nnu6-1227209088731
Mark Schultz is a good writer. 8)
Local man (Dave Miller) has role in Oscar-nominated film
http://www.channel3000.com/entertainment/local-man-has-role-in-oscarnominated-film/31348396